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Offline optima

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Pdf "Problem"
on: January 12, 2008, 01:20:46 PM
it s been a while that i ve started  downloading classical pieces from this forum and i must say that i am very satisfied with the quality and quantity of the sheets :)


however in some pieces i find that the sheet is very "dense" in notes - does this ever happen to you?  I mean that it has many measures/line ( sorry if my english terms are awful - i hope you understand what i mean)

this is not a problem in pieces like "Bela Bartok Romanian Folk Dances" that are not technically demanding but, for example, at Sonata Bb minor, Schumann, Op22 it may be a problem...for an A4 page that most printers take, the notes are relatively small and it is harded to "decode" the piece visually, it makes it harder for the prima vista..

As a result, i borrowed a Breitkopf edition from the conservatory's library and had to copy it- to avoid doing this again do you know of any software that allows you to modify the sheets?Or just simply enlarge them a bit and still fit at an A4 page?

Offline shortyshort

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Re: Pdf "Problem"
Reply #1 on: January 12, 2008, 07:33:09 PM
do you know of any software that allows you to modify the sheets?Or just simply enlarge them a bit and still fit at an A4 page?

I believe that to "EDIT" PDF's you need "Adobe Acrobat".
This is not free, as far as I know.
I am not sure to what extent they can be edited though.

I download sheets to test a piece.
If I wish to learn that piece, I will go to a shop and buy it.
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Offline 0range

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Re: Pdf "Problem"
Reply #2 on: January 18, 2008, 11:22:07 PM
The best way that I've found to date is to re-write the music in notation software. It's time consuming, but there are a lot of great side benefits, like becoming very familiar with the piece in the process, and being able to use that score to write in fingering, or to do analysis.
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Re: Pdf "Problem"
Reply #3 on: January 23, 2008, 11:11:36 PM
The best way that I've found to date is to re-write the music in notation software. It's time consuming, but there are a lot of great side benefits, like becoming very familiar with the piece in the process, and being able to use that score to write in fingering, or to do analysis.

If only one could import PDFs into Finale, Sibelius, et al.

Offline Bob

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Re: Pdf "Problem"
Reply #4 on: January 24, 2008, 12:41:19 AM
There are programs out there that will take a scan, any scan you make or a pdf, and convert that image into a notation file.  Neuratron is one business, if that's the right name.  Photoscore or something like that.  I've used it a few times.

Except they don't always convert perfectly.  Like 90% of the notes are correct and then it has no idea what that slur actually is. 

So if you get good using it, it's useful. 

I think I took a Clementi sonatini off here, converted it to notation, then the notation to MIDI, and had the MIDI play back.  Essentially, the computer played back the direct printed music.  It was kind of freaky and it didn't have too many errors because it was fairly straightforward notation.  My test was succesful, but I didn't know how to go about fixing all the errors.
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Re: Pdf "Problem"
Reply #5 on: January 24, 2008, 01:02:09 PM
Sometimes it is just easier to start a notation file from scratch then spend time looking for OCR errors, and figuring out how the OCR software has input the notes.
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Offline gerryjay

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Re: Pdf "Problem"
Reply #6 on: January 24, 2008, 01:54:28 PM
 i had a very annoyiong experience with ocr programs because there are always mistakes or incomplete parts in the output. so, you need to correct it and that really sucks.
 to me, the best way of note input still is my piano keyboard, connected to the computer via midi. just play the notes, voice by voice if you want/need to and that´s it. quick and smooth. (and an interesting exercise in reading score btw).  8)

Offline clarinetcola

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Re: Pdf "Problem"
Reply #7 on: January 27, 2008, 03:51:37 PM
photoshop opens pdf files as images so maybe you could resize it there if you have the software.
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