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Offline point of grace

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A Chopin Nocturne
« on: January 12, 2008, 09:32:11 PM »
HEY!!
NEED YOUR HELP PIANISTS!!!

iīm new on this site!

Well... iīve never played any nocturne by Chopin, but i fell in love with the op.27 no.2, and i ask my teacher to play it (in my conservatory piano program), so he advised me to choose another nocturne before playing that one.

Which one do you think i could play?!?!

Thanks a bunch!! (and sorry for my bad expressions, iīm not an english native speaker and i find it very difficult sometimes to express myself.  ;) )
Learning:

Chopin Polonaise Op. 53
Brahms Op. 79 No. 2
Rachmaninoff Op. 16 No. 4 and 5

Sheet music to download and print: Nocturnes by Chopin



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Re: A Chopin Nocturne
«Reply #1 on: January 12, 2008, 09:35:53 PM »
The first nocturne (9/1 Bb minor) is beautiful and pretty manageable.

PS: your English is fine.  :)

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Re: A Chopin Nocturne
«Reply #2 on: January 12, 2008, 09:48:23 PM »
The first nocturne (9/1 Bb minor) is beautiful and pretty manageable.

PS: your English is fine.  :)

oh, thanx!! iīll try w/that one.

any good version to recomend me?
Learning:

Chopin Polonaise Op. 53
Brahms Op. 79 No. 2
Rachmaninoff Op. 16 No. 4 and 5

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Re: A Chopin Nocturne
«Reply #3 on: January 13, 2008, 02:45:20 PM »
op27/2 is indeed one of the hardest nocturnes (but also the most beautifull one), so it might be better to try a easier one first. You could start with op9/1, 15/3 or 72/1.
BUT the hard part of Chopin's nocturnes in general is, that they often have small parts wich are technically difficult. So they might look not that difficult, but it takes alot of technique to get them to performance level, to truelly master them.

Good luck,
gyzzzmo
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Re: A Chopin Nocturne
«Reply #4 on: January 13, 2008, 04:12:04 PM »
9/2 is fairly simple, and one I'm sure you'll recognize. It is a bit overdone though, in my opinion.

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Re: A Chopin Nocturne
«Reply #5 on: January 13, 2008, 06:09:23 PM »
What about either the posthumous c# minor or the late e minor one?  While they pose musical difficulty to some extent, they are quite manageable technically.

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Re: A Chopin Nocturne
«Reply #6 on: January 15, 2008, 08:18:21 PM »
What about either the posthumous c# minor or the late e minor one?  While they pose musical difficulty to some extent, they are quite manageable technically.

what n. of op.????

thanx a lot
Learning:

Chopin Polonaise Op. 53
Brahms Op. 79 No. 2
Rachmaninoff Op. 16 No. 4 and 5

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Re: A Chopin Nocturne
«Reply #7 on: January 15, 2008, 08:18:54 PM »
op27/2 is indeed one of the hardest nocturnes (but also the most beautifull one), so it might be better to try a easier one first. You could start with op9/1, 15/3 or 72/1.
BUT the hard part of Chopin's nocturnes in general is, that they often have small parts wich are technically difficult. So they might look not that difficult, but it takes alot of technique to get them to performance level, to truelly master them.

Good luck,
gyzzzmo

i know, the most beautiful one!
thanx for the advices!!! =)
Learning:

Chopin Polonaise Op. 53
Brahms Op. 79 No. 2
Rachmaninoff Op. 16 No. 4 and 5

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Re: A Chopin Nocturne
«Reply #8 on: January 16, 2008, 09:00:45 PM »
I like Op. 15 Nr. 1 (I wanna learn it!). It might be a bit on the harder side, though..

Hmmm, yeah I think most people learn Opus 9 Nr. 1 as their first Nocturne. 9 Nr 2 is really overplayed, but beautiful nevertheless.

Definitely take a look at c#minor one, i'm not sure if it has a opus # since its posthumous; also, e-minor is not that bad, opus 72, nr. 1

Hope that helps!

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Re: A Chopin Nocturne
«Reply #9 on: January 16, 2008, 11:22:39 PM »
I second the recommendation of op 15/3. It is fairly easy to play, and not that many people play it. It is also extremely beautiful I think.

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Re: A Chopin Nocturne
«Reply #10 on: January 16, 2008, 11:32:11 PM »
 i'm with the general opinion: choose between opus 9 number 1 or 2. both are overplayed, but chopin is already overplayed, early 19th century music is overplayed, piano music is probably overplayed...  :P
 just stay away from opus 9/3...

 btw, opus 27/2 is a wonderful piece of music. that's a cool idea for the future.

 about your written english, relax: the non-natives write as they can (i include myself here) and most natives write worst yet...  ;D in the end, disregarding a misunderstanding or two, everybody comunicates.

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Re: A Chopin Nocturne
«Reply #11 on: January 17, 2008, 07:31:44 PM »
i'm with the general opinion: choose between opus 9 number 1 or 2. both are overplayed, but chopin is already overplayed, early 19th century music is overplayed, piano music is probably overplayed...  :P
 just stay away from opus 9/3...

 btw, opus 27/2 is a wonderful piece of music. that's a cool idea for the future.

 about your written english, relax: the non-natives write as they can (i include myself here) and most natives write worst yet...  ;D in the end, disregarding a misunderstanding or two, everybody comunicates.

LOL!!!

THANX 4 THE ADVICES!!!!!!!


yes, we can communicate!!! =P
Learning:

Chopin Polonaise Op. 53
Brahms Op. 79 No. 2
Rachmaninoff Op. 16 No. 4 and 5

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Re: A Chopin Nocturne
«Reply #12 on: January 19, 2008, 01:57:46 AM »
I second the opinion of 9.1, but there are some other simple ones (as others have previously stated), should that nocturne not suit your tastes... 9.1 is one of my favorites, as is 72.1.

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Re: A Chopin Nocturne
«Reply #13 on: January 19, 2008, 07:45:57 PM »
yah, the problem now is that my teacher told me it should not be that easy the op.9... i should be sth intermediate... and i dont know the levels of these nocturnes  ;)
Learning:

Chopin Polonaise Op. 53
Brahms Op. 79 No. 2
Rachmaninoff Op. 16 No. 4 and 5

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Re: A Chopin Nocturne
«Reply #14 on: January 23, 2008, 03:33:03 PM »
What about either the posthumous c# minor or the late e minor one?  While they pose musical difficulty to some extent, they are quite manageable technically.

and the winner issssssssssssss
michael!!! =P

no, i was listening to all of them and i've decided to prepare this nocturne for this yearīs syllabus (everything can change though.... knowing myself...)

and after watching the film the pianist =P



but this was also a good candidate:


bye and thanks everybody!!!!!!!!!!
Learning:

Chopin Polonaise Op. 53
Brahms Op. 79 No. 2
Rachmaninoff Op. 16 No. 4 and 5

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Re: A Chopin Nocturne
«Reply #15 on: January 23, 2008, 06:57:23 PM »
hm.  I'm not sure I'd be willing to put "levels" on the nocturnes - no doubt some are better to start with than others - 9-2 sort of "introduces" you to the way Chopin does bass parts if you haven't done  much Chopin.  Plus it's a very pretty piece!  But the others are correct - they are all difficult to make into truly beautiful music - even if the "notes" aren't that tough to pull off.  Just my 2 cents.
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Re: A Chopin Nocturne
«Reply #16 on: January 23, 2008, 10:48:25 PM »
hm.  I'm not sure I'd be willing to put "levels" on the nocturnes - no doubt some are better to start with than others - 9-2 sort of "introduces" you to the way Chopin does bass parts if you haven't done  much Chopin.  Plus it's a very pretty piece!  But the others are correct - they are all difficult to make into truly beautiful music - even if the "notes" aren't that tough to pull off.  Just my 2 cents.

i've listened them (op.9) all my life and i dont want to play them, at least in this moment, thatīs why i was looking for some others since im not pretty good in chopinīs nocturnes matter.
thanks!
ive played many preludes from the op.28, like no.13 22 and 24.


Learning:

Chopin Polonaise Op. 53
Brahms Op. 79 No. 2
Rachmaninoff Op. 16 No. 4 and 5

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Re: A Chopin Nocturne
«Reply #17 on: September 05, 2008, 05:04:33 PM »
Op. 72 No. 1 (Nocturne in E Minor) is the easiest one that I have played, and it is also a very expressive piece. It is one I sometimes play to warm up.