Good ENCORE pieces??

[hwangs]

It seems like basically ANYTHING can be played these days for encores. Maybe something very light and short. Or something magnificent (like Liszt or something)

What are some good encore pieces you think would well compliment Beethoven's Concerto #3 OR What are some encore pieces that you have played for your recital(s)/concert(s)?? Any suggestions?

[rachfan]

Hi hwangs,

An idea for a first quiet encore would be "Lilacs" by Rachmaninoff.

A virtuosic "bring down the house" second encore would be Bortkiewicz's Impromptu, Op. 24, No. 3, "Eros". 

I've recorded both pieces and posted them in the Audition Room Forum, if you're unfamiliar with them.

[jpowell]

I've been playing:

Chopin-Godowsky Minute Waltz
Ginzburg paraphrase on Waltz from Casanova
Gnattali Negaceando
Mikhashoff-Puccini Vissi d'arte
Conus Chant sans paroles
Debussy Piece pour les vetements du blesse

[gerryjay]

 a cool encore is villa-lobos' "o polichinello". standing ovation probably...

[dan101]

I like Weber's Perpetuum Mobile (Rondo of Opus 24). This work has given me great audience response.

[m]

Lately for encores I play:

Mendelssohn--Rachmaninov, Scherzo (Midsummernight Dream)
Rachmaninov, Preludes D-major, G# minor, Moments Musical no.2, 6
Bach-Siloti, Prelude B minor
Mendelssohn--Horowitz, Wedding March
Chopin--Etudes Op.10/2, Op.25/6
Scriabin, Waltz Op.38
Beethoven, Andante Favori

[dnephi]

Lately for encores I play:

Mendelssohn--Rachmaninov, Scherzo (Midsummernight)

[m]

I hate the day I started working on it... Now about 22 years later I dared to play it in public for the first time   .

The most devilishly difficult piece I ever touched.

[point of grace]

i think some debussy, or a chopin etude.

[franz-liszt]

Chopin Pelude No 12 (Op. 28)

[swim4ever_22]

It depends on you, essentially. For something light, tranquil, or soothing: Chopin, some Liszt, Debussy... any of the romantics. For something virtuosic: Liszt, Rachmaninov, maybe Ravel.

[point of grace]

i knowwwwww!
Debussy´s first arabesque
 

[kiwi_bd]

anything from the 24 chopin etudes....
esp op. 10 no. 1, 4
op. 25 no. 11, 12

[m]

It seems like basically ANYTHING can be played these days for encores.

True, but THOSE days ANYTHING could be played for encores, as well.

What are some good encore pieces you think would well compliment Beethoven's Concerto #3

How about Goldberg Variations?... I know, Serkin already did it, but... with all repeats?

[m]

anything from the 24 chopin etudes....

Could work...

esp op. 10 no. 1, 4
op. 25 no. 11, 12

Out of curiosity, what is so special about those, as opposed to other 23?
I mean... how any of those would have that implied very special impact specifically after Beethoven Concerto No.3?

[gerryjay]

How about Goldberg Variations?... I know, Serkin already did it, but... with all repeats?

hey marik!
is that real? one hour of encore?  myself too!

[amelialw]

Could work...

Out of curiosity, what is so special about those, as opposed to other 23?
I mean... how any of those would have that implied very special impact specifically after Beethoven Concerto No.3?

op.10 no.4 is a great encore, the ending is....sigh...I love it.

[kiwi_bd]

op.10 no.4 is a great encore, the ending is....sigh...I love it.

yes...i actually also find op. 10 no. 4 the best one
richter also once said that op. 10 no. 4 is a good choice for encore

[m]

hey marik!
is that real? one hour of encore? 

Yep, young R. Serkin--famous story. Google it.

op.10 no.4 is a great encore, the ending is....sigh...I love it.

True, it has a great ending, but most of other 23 etudes also do...
Personally, as an encore I'd much rather play Op.10/11 or Op.25/2.

richter also once said that op. 10 no. 4 is a good choice for encore

Where did you get this information?

[mephisto]

Where did you get this information?

If action speaks louder than words:

1977 Richter

April 9, Debrecen, Bartók Hall.
[1] Beethoven: Andante favori in F,
[2] Schumann: Carnival in Vienna, op.26,
[3] Chopin: Scherzo in B minor, op.20,
[4] Scherzo in B flat minor, op.31,
[5] Scherzo in C sharp minor op.39,
[6] Chopin: Barcarole, op.60 (encore)
[7] Chopin: Three Etudes op.10/6, 10, 4 (E flat minor, A flat, C sharp minor encores)

I have the recording.

I have to admit never having read that Richter said that he thought that opus. 10 No. 4 was a good encore.

A beautifull encore can be Godowsky's Alt Wien.

[gerryjay]

Yep, young R. Serkin--famous story. Google it.

absolutely amazing! and look at that comment by himself:
“when I finished, there were only four people left in the hall—adolph busch, artur schnabel, alfred einstein and myself.” 

[hwangs]

What the... i'm the one looking for recommendations and forgot that i posted this link! Lol... thank you for the rec's everyone!

Interesting discussion about the Chopin Etudes-- I was considering this, but rather, what do you think about Opus 10-3 (i know overplayed, but it is really sentimental and balances the tension and thrill from the 3rd mvt of the concerto)... or maybe Op. 25 No. 9, Butterfly Etude??

I was thinking either something really sentimental, like Chopin Nocturn 15 Nr 1 or something light, like Golliwogg's Cakewalk in Children's Corner by Debussy... which is kind of ironic since they're like polar opposites. Plus, pieces like Mendelssohn-Rach, I think I would I have to work on it more than the concerto, if I were to do that!! Ah... or just not have an encore at all, lol.

I did hear about Serkins-- that's crazy! Though I dont know if I would particularly like his interpretation of Goldberg... haha

[kiwi_bd]

Where did you get this information? Shocked

"the 4th Etude, as an encore, wasn't bad either"

check it out

[sharon_f]

Keeping with Beethoven you could go with the Andante Favori (already mentioned), Rage Over A Lost Penny or the Beethoven-Rubinstein Turkish March wich Kissin uses as an encore.

[etudes]

why not 3 encores?
chopin op.10 no.5
chopin op.25 no.9
and godowsky badinage (combined op.10 no.5 and op.25 no.9)
 

[rhapsody4]

For Beethoven #3, Schubert Impromptu D899 #4 would be great.
I think after a Beethoven concerto, something light and short would certainly be a more appropriate encore than say, Liszt.

Good luck

[m]

"the 4th Etude, as an encore, wasn't bad either"

Ah, in Russian he says "and 4th etude as an encore. Came out not bad."

If action speaks louder than words:
....

Yeah, I was at his recital where as an encore he played Brahms-Paganini entire 2nd book, and another concert complete Haydn Sonata... I guess those are also good encore pieces...

[kiwi_bd]

Ah, in Russian he says "and 4th etude as an encore. Came out not bad."

Yeah, I was at his recital where as an encore he played Brahms-Paganini entire 2nd book, and another concert complete Haydn Sonata... I guess those are also good encore pieces...

i'm sorry...i'm not a Russian..

[schubertiad]

As with most things in music and performance, 'how' is much more important than 'what'. A great rendition of any piece will be a great encore. it seems ridiculous that many of today's musicians are so closed-minded that they even seem to be creating standards and rules for encores! Often concert programmes are made with a mainstream audience in mind, but having lured them in with your set programme you are then free in the encores to show them whatever beautiful piece of music you want. To limit yourself in this respect seems to miss the point entirely. The only consideration may be time, however Serkin seems to already have torn that notion to shreds as well...

[mephisto]

Yeah, I was at his recital where as an encore he played Brahms-Paganini entire 2nd book, and another concert complete Haydn Sonata... I guess those are also good encore pieces...

I have never said that Opus. 10 No. 4 was a good encore piece, I just pointed out that Richter played it as an encore. Do you think Richter played Opus. 10 No. 4 as an encore because he didn't think it was a good encore piece?

[m]

I have never said that Opus. 10 No. 4 was a good encore piece, I just pointed out that Richter played it as an encore.

Contrary to how it might come accross, I was not arguing with you. I never said or implied you said this, esp. considering the fact, in your original message you wrote: "I have to admit never having read that Richter said that he thought that opus. 10 No. 4 was a good encore."
And yes, I know that he played it as an encore frequently (and BTW, in a main program, as well) throughout many years.

Do you think Richter played Opus. 10 No. 4 as an encore because he didn't think it was a good encore piece?

No, I don't think so.
The only intention of that my message was:
1) to bring to peoples attention the fact that Richter never publicly said that Chopin Op.10/4 is a good encore piece (in respond to Kiwi_bd), and
2) to show that if to assume that "action speaks louder than words" apparently, for S. Richter Brahms-Paganini, or entire Haydn Sonata were good encore pieces, as well.

I heard that on one ocasion he played entire Diabelli Variations as an encore... with all repeats  .
Obviously, for Richter that choice was just as good.

Hopefully, now it does not leave any confusion.

Best, M

[mephisto]

Contrary to how it might come accross, I was not arguing with you. I never said or implied you said this, esp. considering the fact, in your original message you wrote: "I have to admit never having read that Richter said that he thought that opus. 10 No. 4 was a good encore."
And yes, I know that he played it as an encore frequently (and BTW, in a main program, as well) throughout many years.

No, I don't think so.
The only intention of that my message was:
1) to bring to peoples attention the fact that Richter never publicly said that Chopin Op.10/4 is a good encore piece (in respond to Kiwi_bd), and
2) to show that if to assume that "action speaks louder than words" apparently, for S. Richter Brahms-Paganini, or entire Haydn Sonata were good encore pieces, as well.

I heard that on one ocasion he played entire Diabelli Variations as an encore... with all repeats  .
Obviously, for Richter that choice was just as good.

Hopefully, now it does not leave any confusion.

Best, M

No confusion anymore

Interestingly Richter did play the entire 4th mvt of the Hammerklavier as an encore, after had just played the entire sonata.

[franzliszt2]

Godowsky etude macabre. I use that, it's a nice treat.

[nortti]

A piano transcription of Shostakovich's Polka from the Golden Age. Maybe not a good idea after Beethoven, though...

[pla635]

Everyone seems tothink chopin etudes are nice encore pieces--Not only are they a terrible treat for the person having to play it, but they are so standard.

How about the grunfeld or godowsky transcription of Die fledermaus?
Schulz evler-Beautiful blue danube
Transcrption of the nutcracker (excerpts) by tchaikovsky?
Moskowski etudes?

These things seem fun and trashy, but a nice treat at the end-and not as hard as a chopn study

[point of grace]

Hi hwangs,

An idea for a first quiet encore would be "Lilacs" by Rachmaninoff.

A virtuosic "bring down the house" second encore would be Bortkiewicz's Impromptu, Op. 24, No. 3, "Eros".  

I've recorded both pieces and posted them in the Audition Room Forum, if you're unfamiliar with them.

looking for good opinions for an encore i found this thread and this post... I'm interested in Bortkiewicz but i couldnt find the sheet music yet... thanks for the suggestions!

[prongated]

It seems like basically ANYTHING can be played these days for encores. Maybe something very light and short. Or something magnificent (like Liszt or something)

What are some good encore pieces you think would well compliment Beethoven's Concerto #3 OR What are some encore pieces that you have played for your recital(s)/concert(s)?? Any suggestions?

When Radu Lupu played the Beethoven 3 (with TSO I think) in Toronto last year, I believe he played Schumann's Arabesque as encore...

EDIT: OH WHAT, A BUMP? Stop bumping

[richard black]

Chopin 1st Ballade

Liszt Dante Sonata

Bach Goldberg Variations.

Yes, I really have heard of all three being used as encores. (First two were John Ogdon, I forget the perpetrator of the third.)

[point of grace]

Liszt Dante Sonata

i also heard this one and it was totally boring and emotionless, and too long for an encore...

[prongated]

Chopin 1st Ballade

Liszt Dante Sonata

Bach Goldberg Variations.

Yes, I really have heard of all three being used as encores. (First two were John Ogdon, I forget the perpetrator of the third.)

I thought that the entire Gaspard as encore is bad enough!

[It was Bernd Glemser...as he sat down, he began..."tonight I've been telling many stories"...'mmhmm, lots of Rachmaninoff goodness indeed'..."so now I'm going to tell you more stories"...'sweet!'..."ghost stories"...'uh oh, I hope it's not' and there it began, the opening of Ondine ]

[danielsmith]

Maybe Chopin's Polonaise in a flat minor Op 53
or maybe something like one of Liszt's 12 Etudes d'Execution Transcendante

[chopianist123]

I believe Chopin's Polonaise Op.53 is in A flat major 

What about a Chopin Waltz as an encore piece?

[simonjp90]

For Flashy:

Rimsky-Korsakov - Flight of the Bumblebee (arr. Rachmaninov)
Liszt - Paganini etude no. 5 ~La Chasse
Weissenberg arrangement of Charles Trenet's song 'Menilmontant'
Godowsky - Chopin study op 25 no 1 - 2nd version (Like four hands)
Chopin prelude no. 16 in B flat minor op 28

For cheesy:

Howells - the chosen tune
Rachmaninov prelude op 23 no 6 in Eb
Grainger - arrangement of Dowlands 'now o now i needs must part'

[prongated]

Rimsky-Korsakov - Flight of the Bumblebee (arr. Rachmaninov)

Lol...that one is more like, lame? So much done...

Rachmaninov prelude op 23 no 6 in Eb

What?!? No!! That is a beautiful piece! Cheesy is Schumann/Liszt Widmung!

[stucoy]

Maybe the Gluck-Sgambati Melodie d'Orphee or the Glinka-Balakriev 'The Lark'

[simonjp90]

Lol...that one is more like, lame? So much done...

What?!? No!! That is a beautiful piece! Cheesy is Schumann/Liszt Widmung!

done so much but hardly ever done well. listen to kissins for the best


and its super cheesy!! how can you not say its cheesy. especially the climax on the second page

[danielsmith]

I believe Chopin's Polonaise Op.53 is in A flat major 

haha oops

[point of grace]

i think the best encore ever is rachmaninoff prelude in g minor. op.23 no. 5
everyone loves it

[nanabush]

Liebermann Gargoyles #4

Rachmaninoff Etude Op 39 #9


Both of these aren't overplayed, and are short-ish pieces, but are immensely powerful finishing pieces 

[point of grace]

Both of these aren't overplayed, and are short-ish pieces, but are immensely powerful finishing pieces 

good point