Liszt - Great Concert Solo?!

[shadow88]

Hello!
I have a CD with Giuseppe Andaloro playing the 4 Mephisto Walzes, 2 Elegies and the "Great Concert Solo from Liszt"
Do you know this piece? I cant imagine that someone can play it because there are difficult parts that are played only by the right hand but it sounds like 2 hands! I coudn't find it in youtube and i coudnt find the sheet. Does somebody of you have it on cd or the sheet music of it because it sounds just like a recording where he recorded each bar seperatet ..

[william9636]

 :)LOL

[shadow88]

why lol?!
I'm not the noob who just thinks it is unplayable because it sounds hard!?
This is the part I am talking about..
I would be happy if someone would give me the sheet or jsut tell me that it sthe original version ^^

[thierry13]

This is a very easy and surprinsingly comfortable technical figuration, it's really not that bad. Chopin used that kind of thing in the third movement of his 2nd piano concerto, and Liszt uses it in the concerto pathetique too.

[thierry13]

Listen to this at around 1:03 and it's about the same figuration.

[Kassaa]

This is a very easy and surprinsingly comfortable technical figuration, it's really not that bad. Chopin used that kind of thing in the third movement of his 2nd piano concerto, and Liszt uses it in the concerto pathetique too.

The concerto pathetique is basically the Grande Concert Solo for two piano's. But this is definitely for 1 piano.

[rachfan]

There is a paradox about Liszt: Some of his music is absolutely extraordinary and some of it is not very good at all.  When it came to quality, he certainly wasn't the most consistent of the Romantic composers in that respect.  His more experimental late works are in a category by themselves, of course. 

When I listened to this excerpt of the Grande Concert Solo (Grosses Konzertsolo), I knew I had never heard it before.  There is no mention of the piece in Friskin or Barnard, but I did find it in Hinson.  It was a piece (a lengthy one at around 23 minutes play time) written around 1849 for a competition at the Paris Conservatory and dedicated to Henselt.  It's difficult to judge its merits just from the brief excerpt posted here.  My sense though is that the piece is apparently obscure, given that it appears only in one of the three repertoire guides I checked. 

So is the prevailing verdict that Liszt covered himself with glory with this virtuosic display piece, or does it fall more into the trashy genre of his ouvre?   

[thalbergmad]

I love this piece, but there again I love Liszt. I do however agree what rachfan said as he varied from the incredible to the terrible.

I attach the score should anyone be interested in making a judgement.

Thal

[cygnusdei]

This thread might be relevant:

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,1664.0.html

[tompilk]

it's a wonderful figuration. It's also in the second to last page of the alkan grande sonate, movement 1. really not as difficult as it sounds...

[thierry13]

it's a wonderful figuration. It's also in the second to last page of the alkan grande sonate, movement 1. really not as difficult as it sounds...

Indeed it is! Didn't think of that one, thanks.

The concerto pathetique is basically the Grande Concert Solo for two piano's. But this is definitely for 1 piano.

The concerto pathetique was written first for piano and orchestra, and then for 2 pianos. The 2 pianos reduction is really different in it's division of the music than the one for piano+orchestra, it really IS a 2-piano piece. As for the actual grand concert solo, it indeed is again the same music than the concerto pathetique, but again arranged very differently from the other 2 versions, as it seems.