anyone heard of "the third way" politics?

[Derek]

anyone heard of "the third way" politics? The idea that extreme socialists or extreme capitalists are basically both wrong, that there exists a middle path? I think it is pretty interesting myself...I've only been just introduced to the idea though, and was wondering if anyone else has read about/thought about it.

[ahinton]

anyone heard of "the third way" politics? The idea that extreme socialists or extreme capitalists are basically both wrong, that there exists a middle path? I think it is pretty interesting myself...I've only been just introduced to the idea though, and was wondering if anyone else has read about/thought about it.

In UK, that third way might be regarded by certain people of cynical persuasion as represented by the extreme apathists; that said, what we have here now is, by and large, the three ways of the non-extreme socialists, the non-extreme capitalists and the non-extreme apathists respectively and it would take no great leap of imagination to figure out just how effective a coalition of all three would be in the absence of any one of them securing an outrigtht majority at a general election...

Back to work...

Best,

Alistair

[dnephi]

You mean "moderate" political beliefs?  That's where most of the world seems to stand.

Daniel

[counterpoint]

I know what a "capitalist" is.

I don't know what a "socialist" is. I never saw one 

Humanity and fairness should be the leitmotif of politics.

[gyzzzmo]

In Holland we have a system, so that multiple groupls usually form the government. That way both sides, capitalist and socialist, discuss an issue and decide what to do. Works pretty good. The disadvantage is that it often takes long to get something done.

gyzzzmo

[thalbergmad]

In Holland we have a system

We have a system in England too.

We elect a govenrnent because we are bored with the last one and we don't trust them. That govenment over a short period of time then breaks every single promise it made to get elected.

Then it starts to tax hard working people to death so it can keep up payments to its resident pond life. Any money left over is used to buy Playstations for criminals, lap tops for terrorists and to make sure that the latest batch of human crap that has just arrived in the back of a lorry is given suitable housing.

Thal

[shortyshort]

The modern way of English politics also incorporates The, "Whatever you say you're going to do, we will do too", ritual.

So when it's time to vote, there is no choice. They are all cheating Bar-stewards.

[ahinton]

We have a system in England too.

Your optimism in the use of that term in this context is remarkable!

We elect a govenrnent because we are bored with the last one and we don't trust them. That govenment over a short period of time then breaks every single promise it made to get elected.

Yes, governments are indeed elected to break promises, but who's "we"? I've never elected a government in my life - not even on the rare occasions when I have actually cast a vote in a general election.

Then it starts to tax hard working people to death so it can keep up payments to its resident pond life. Any money left over is used to buy Playstations for criminals, lap tops for terrorists and to make sure that the latest batch of human crap that has just arrived in the back of a lorry is given suitable housing.

Er - they've not all done quite that in my lifetime; some have been far more tax-obsessed than others, though I admit that none of them has a proud record on tax...

Best,

Alistair

[frigo]

I think you're refering to what o call in portugal "centre". We have the "right", the "left" - like in the rest of the world, i think. This nomination came with the french revolution - and an invention that i find quite remarkable that is the "centre". No party at all describes itself as belonging to the "centre", but many measures of the government, when they cannot be called a right's measure or a left's measure, newspapers take care of calling it centre's measure. We even have some parties that are called of being from centre-left, or centre-right, but none is completely from centre. But, when we in the end submit all of the existent parties to a rigorous analisys, we see that they all think the same way, they all have the same great ideias, they all have the same great measures AND, if, at the first sight, it doesn't seem like I am saying, it's just because our politicians have an enormous effort to build a gigantic circus around us, just to keep us away from their governation and their softly alternance in the government, that comes with the elections, but that in the end it always finishes with us, the stupid common people, paying to keep them dinnering with class and luxury, to show to another country that we, after all, are a modern country. Don't fall in this crap, it's just a discusting strategy...

 

[frigo]

I am sorry for my english errors....I hope my idea is understandable...

[thalbergmad]

I've neer elected a government n my life - not even on the rare occasions when i have axtually cast a vote in a general election.

I think it might be wise to answer posts BEFORE going down to your wine cellar.

Thal

[ahinton]

I think it might be wise to answer posts BEFORE going down to your wine cellar.

Thal

I answer posts whenever I feel like doing so. Sadly, de temps en temps, I make typos regardless of what I feel like doing. What concerns me here, however, is that you have omitted to respond to what I've actually written. My wine cellar (such as I have of one - and it is exceedingly and embarrassingly modest), has nothing whatsoever to do with any of this.

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

Hic

[ahinton]

Hic

...and your (hic)cup runneth over? I applaud your knowledge of Latin but, in the absence of further elucidation from you, I remain uncertain as to the remainder of what it seemed that you were about to write. That's surely something of a pity, since you have yet to tell us more about your take on the business of voting governments in and out in UK and the "principles" of tax law that successive ones seek to foist upon the long-suffering electorate.

Over to you...

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

I vote for the BNP, but i see little chance of them forming a government.

Thal

[ahinton]

I vote for the BNP, but i see little chance of them forming a government.

Thal

Do they always field a candidate in Gravesend, then? (the BNP, I mean); frankly, I see even less chance of them having a clue as to how to form a government even in what you rightly accept is the extreme unlikelihood of their being elected to do so.

I always thought that the National Front was at least a good name for a political party (if nothing else); at least it was different, in the sense that one has come to expect all other political parties to stab one another in the back...

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

Do they always field a candidate in Gravesend, then

Yes