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Offline madgun2

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Good advices
on: February 13, 2008, 10:28:50 AM
I want to play Mozart's 17.pianoconcerto, but I did wonder if anyone had some advices how to preform such a "big" piece? I have never played a pianoconcerto before, and thought that someone here probably had played this concert or something like it before, and had some advices how to think when you are ment to preform this piece and in the practice time?
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Re: Good advices
Reply #1 on: February 28, 2008, 09:31:05 PM
I can suggest you to learn by memory the whole piece, listen to several different recordings and buy a Cd containing the symphonic accompaniment of the concert: so you can practice to play your piano part together with the musical accompaniment of the CD.

(MINUS ONE has a set of several orchestral accompaniment  ( like Aebersold for jazz musicians)
and I think it contains the Mozart's 17 piano concert)
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Offline madgun2

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Re: Good advices
Reply #2 on: March 04, 2008, 08:13:59 AM
okey! i will try to find a CD;) thanks!:)

Offline mozartjuveniles

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Re: Good advices
Reply #3 on: March 04, 2008, 09:35:23 AM
where can i buy that cd containing symphonic accomp?

thanks

Offline counterpoint

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Re: Good advices
Reply #4 on: March 04, 2008, 12:19:31 PM
You should play the concerto with a second pianist at a second piano.
Learning to play such things with a CD is not very useful, since you do not have any freedom for your own thoughts. You're forced to play as the concerto is played by someone else. That's not a good way to start.
If it doesn't work - try something different!

Offline teresa_b

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Re: Good advices
Reply #5 on: March 04, 2008, 12:36:00 PM
Hi,

I have performed Mozart no 17 with chamber orchestra.  It is one of my very favorite concertos!  Great choice.  

I would be cautious about trying to play this very much with CD ("Music Minus One" is what you want to look for).  It's OK just to hear the contrast between you and the orchestra and to hear your entrances.  Also good to practice keeping going if you slip.  But the tempos are usually not the ones you want, so I would use this only for these specific purposes.  

Most important points about this concerto, I think:

Smooth, beautiful phrasing--always should be flowing, at the same time transparent and sparkling--think "air" between notes in fast runs.  Of course, evenness and clarity are all-important. (Listen closely to yourself and practice runs slowly until you can play them evenly.)

NEVER too delicate or precious!  If Mozart says forte, he means it.  Big chords are big!  Just don't get so weighty it sounds like Beethoven, or so Rubato it sounds like Rach.  

The second movement is a prayer.  

Let yourself go totally in third movement!  This is Mozart at his most humorous.  Have FUN!!!

I had posted this, and will try to attach my recording here (I made some mistakes, this is a live recording):

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,20503.0.html

Teresa





Offline madgun2

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Re: Good advices
Reply #6 on: March 09, 2008, 11:21:22 AM
thank you!! I think you playd it good!:) I`ve found a friend who also playies the piano, and he plays the second piano for me.! I will preform this piece this week... hope that I will manage!:) It is really a amusing concert!=) Thank you for all the good advices!!!;)

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Re: Good advices
Reply #7 on: March 09, 2008, 02:23:08 PM
Wow, did you learn this piece in 3 weeks???   :o

Good luck, and have fun!

Teresa

Offline madgun2

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Reply #8 on: March 26, 2008, 11:34:14 AM
Not really 3 weeks!:) 2 months I think, but I still will have some masterclasses before I can play it in a real concert! But the last concert, who just were at school, did go very well thou:)

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Re: Good advices
Reply #9 on: March 27, 2008, 03:54:03 PM
Congrats!   ;D

Teresa
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