what do you think of theis piece and the pianist?

[presto agitato]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2mr8Um06Mo&feature=related

Thanks

[thierry13]

Hrm, this guy is not a pianist, that was keyboard. You can clearly see there is no resistance in the touch. *Please stop poluting this forum with crap like this Keith Jarett.*<- That's my tought on the piece and the "pianist"( )

[indutrial]

Hrm, this guy is not a pianist, that was keyboard. You can clearly see there is no resistance in the touch. *Please stop poluting this forum with crap like this Keith Jarett.*<- That's my tought on the piece and the "pianist"( )

Should we assume that Emerson, Lake, & Palmer won't be allowed to open for your world tour this summer. I saw them open for Deep Purple back in 1996 and both bands kicked ass. I suppose that makes me a Philistine, but that's the price you pay when you're capable of things like joyfulness.

You're polluting this forum with your smug self-absorption and insufferably bitter melodrama more than any number of sub-standard (at least by your annoying standards) piano videos ever could.

[i heart xenakis]

That guy looks like the dorky, blonde uncle from full house after years of hard-core drug abuse.  His playing, ironically, had all of the intellect of the full house theme, and sounded as though it was played by a crack addict, so I'm not surprised!  This is pop trash, and I don't care if it's breaking down bridges from pop-listeners into classical.   Anyone who comes to the world of classical music looking for this?  I'll be glad to slam the door in their face.

[indutrial]

That guy looks like the dorky, blonde uncle from full house after years of hard-core drug abuse.  His playing, ironically, had all of the intellect of the full house theme, and sounded as though it was played by a crack addict, so I'm not surprised!  This is pop trash, and I don't care if it's breaking down bridges from pop-listeners into classical.   Anyone who comes to the world of classical music looking for this?  I'll be glad to slam the door in their face.

Not being one of those godly enough who became pure and unsullied classical musicians without being soiled by plebeian musical environments, I cannot see where you're coming from with this kind of vomitous bile, and that makes me feel fortunate. You can try slamming the door all you want. It's a shame it's a revolving door...and that you're not on the inside of it anyway.

[thierry13]

Should we assume that Emerson, Lake, & Palmer won't be allowed to open for your world tour this summer. I saw them open for Deep Purple back in 1996 and both bands kicked ass. I suppose that makes me a Philistine, but that's the price you pay when you're capable of things like joyfulness.

You're polluting this forum with your smug self-absorption and insufferably bitter melodrama more than any number of sub-standard (at least by your annoying standards) piano videos ever could.

I would rather listen to 3 hours non-stop of megadeth instead of watching this pseudo-pianist(musician) play. The first thing I corrected is that he wasn't a PIANIST, since the THING he was playing is NOT a piano, and has definitely not the same possibilities/difficulties a piano gives. NOW, we are on a PIANO forum, and certainly not on a KEYBOARD-trash forum, and in the PERFORMANCE board, not in "miscellaneous" or "anything but piano" boards (the latter would be the more approriate for this thread). The misplacement of the topic was the only reason I said to stop polluting the forum.

[thierry13]

Not being one of those godly enough who became pure and unsullied classical musicians without being soiled by plebeian musical environments, I cannot see where you're coming from with this kind of vomitous bile, and that makes me feel fortunate. You can try slamming the door all you want. It's a shame it's a revolving door...and that you're not on the inside of it anyway.

In this post, congratulation for making NO point at all in about 70 words. That is the best exemple you could give of empty irony. It's like if I handed you a pile of sh*t, would tell you to eat it, and then you would obviously say no, that's caca, and I would answer with : HOOO EXCUSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MEEEE your highness for the only food I can give you is not good enough for MISTERRRRRR indutrial. <- Your post was nothing more nothing less than THIS. EXACTLY the same. The only difference is maybe that the guy in the video smelled worse ...

[rhapsody4]

Why try and pretend that this is anything but a rock band? Keith Emerson is perhaps the finest high-profile rock pianist of prog rock generation and the vitriolic abuse above is ridiculous. The performance above is after severe hand surgery in the early 90s which limited use of his left hand. Fine, this is a keyboard that he is using, but Emerson was not just limited to using this. In the 70s, he regularly played extended PIANO (yes, PIANO) pieces as part of the concerts and culminated in writing a piano concerto in something like 1977. Whatever you may think of the type of music he plays, he is a highly versatile musician with a genuine piano background and classical training. His piano technique is remarkable for someone who has spent their life working with rock musicians. Just because he chose to make a career not solely concentrating on classical music does not make him a bad musician/performer.

"Hommage to the seventies; don't take it too serious."

[presto agitato]

Why try and pretend that this is anything but a rock band? Keith Emerson is perhaps the finest high-profile rock pianist of prog rock generation and the vitriolic abuse above is ridiculous. The performance above is after severe hand surgery in the early 90s which limited use of his left hand. Fine, this is a keyboard that he is using, but Emerson was not just limited to using this. In the 70s, he regularly played extended PIANO (yes, PIANO) pieces as part of the concerts and culminated in writing a piano concerto in something like 1977. Whatever you may think of the type of music he plays, he is a highly versatile musician with a genuine piano background and classical training. His piano technique is remarkable for someone who has spent their life working with rock musicians. Just because he chose to make a career not solely concentrating on classical music does not make him a bad musician/performer.

"Hommage to the seventies; don't take it too serious."

Well said. I love Emerson and Moraz.

[retrouvailles]

Well, this may be good when compared to rock bands from the 70s and 80s, it's total crap when compared to basically any marginally good classical or jazz pianist (does not include Keith Jarrett). I agree with a previous poster. Please stop polluting Pianostreet with this non-classical trash. We have enough to deal with some classical trash that is posted.

[thalbergmad]

Well, this may be good when compared to rock bands from the 70s and 80s

Poss, if you don't include Wizzard.

Thal

[indutrial]

Well, this may be good when compared to rock bands from the 70s and 80s, it's total crap when compared to basically any marginally good classical or jazz pianist (does not include Keith Jarrett). I agree with a previous poster. Please stop polluting Pianostreet with this non-classical trash. We have enough to deal with some classical trash that is posted.

I would probably agree with you on this, but the shameful egomania in some of the other responses is a different kind of trash entirely...and I would rather see that go than any amount of Keith Emerson videos. Some of the balloonheads on this board think that their being cloistered classical musicians (at least in their own distorted perception) gives them license to view the rest of the musical world in the same way that the Nazis viewed Eastern Europeans and seem to have mental capacities that allow only for petulant vitriol and abusive cockiness.

Well said, Rhapsody4.

[i heart xenakis]

Not being one of those godly enough who became pure and unsullied classical musicians without being soiled by plebeian musical environments, I cannot see where you're coming from with this kind of vomitous bile, and that makes me feel fortunate. You can try slamming the door all you want. It's a shame it's a revolving door...and that you're not on the inside of it anyway.

Indutrial, haven't we gone over this?  That it is not in your best interest to try to argue with me in this sort of manner, because, as our history dictates, I will verbally bitchslap you all the way back to the beginner's board?

First off, please, hold your symphathy, for it is I who is sorry for you.  *gives you a consolatory hug*  While of course I would not say all non-classical music has no value (King Crimson is one of my favorites, randomly) I can say with complete and utter contentment that this crap trying to be passed off as piano virtuoso is so mind-numbingly stupid and anti-intellectual it really does have no value except to make it easier to distinguish people who listen to real piano music and people who listen to crap, because anyone who would enjoy this listens to crap.  I know this probably sounds fairly hypocritical considering the arguments I've recently made in a fairly high-profile thread about Xenakis, but there is one fatal difference: Xenakis had compositional talent, this man does not.  Also, your door analogy makes absolutely no sense whatsoever in any plausible context, particularly because you fail to explain it.  Probably because you just said something you thought would sound cool, but then could not tac any meaning or purpose onto it and, in some vain effort in trying to sound smarter that someone you are "arguing" with, if you can call that tactic arguing in the first place, you just left it there.  By the way, you can slam a revolving door, and you can lock a revolving door.  And also, which side of the revolving door would I be on, and could you elaborate as to which side is the inside and which side is the outside?  Are you going to try to claim that I don't listen to classical music?  If so, are you retarded?  Wait, why am I asking?  It's painfully obvious that you are.  Anyone who would listen to that crap would obviously be trying to dumb themselves down, AND I THINK YOU WENT TOO FAR   Ohhhhh..... no wait, I thought I could almost make sense of your attempt at an analogy but that logic was also just as poor and inately refuted as the notion that I don't listen to classical music.


Now why don't you just look at the people who are the ones defending music like this.  Then why don't you go back and look through some of their posts.  You are now associated with the children of this forum.  Enjoy your virtuous campaign to protect music that has no right to ever exist; it's only costing you any sort of weight or baring to anything you ever say on here again.

gives them license to view the rest of the musical world in the same way that the Nazis viewed Eastern Europeans

Oh wow, maybe you never WERE smart!  That is just so laughably ridiculous, air-grabbing, pathetic, mediocre and childish I now have absolutely no respect for you whatsoever.


WATCH OUT PEOPLE!!!  Don't EVER let anyone find out you don't think a piece of music has any value or you're a Jew-hating, black-murdering NAZI


Ahahahahhahaahahaha.  Go to pianoworld.

[cygnusdei]

I love bringing chaos! Ha ha ha ha ha ........

[i heart xenakis]

OK indutrial, we've done it my way now.  Let's do it your way.


Tell me, what would the target audience of this person be?  I think we can rule out sophisticated Jazz and sophisticated Classical crowds.  So tell me then, what obvious logical conclusion does that take us to?

[indutrial]

OK indutrial, we've done it my way now.  Let's do it your way.


Tell me, what would the target audience of this person be?  I think we can rule out sophisticated Jazz and sophisticated Classical crowds.  So tell me then, what obvious logical conclusion does that take us to?

I'm sorry, I stopped paying attention about halfway through the previous post. What does it matter what conclusions we reach here on what's apparantly your little painstakingly-carved-out desert island of egomania on the internet. Like plenty of others on this forum, I'm not here to match wits with some battle-hardened little closet-case troll who has nothing better to do than pick apart other forum users like it really means something. If you don't respect me (and I'm pretty sure you're incapable of respecting anyone), why the *** should I waste time trying to square arguments against your inane mania. I honestly don't care enough to get into a fruitless spat with a worm like you. It's sad that it seems to be all you're really capable of.

segue to yet another 500-word verbal masturbathon....

P.S. Where did I mention exterminating Jews or black people in my thread? I specifically mentioned the East Europeans (i.e. Slavs), who the Nazis viewed as complete inferiors, sort of how you look upon other music listeners. Lest it not be obvious, I was being dramatic. So get over yourself.

[i heart xenakis]

I'm sorry, I stopped paying attention about halfway through the previous post. What does it matter what conclusions we reach here on what's apparantly your little painstakingly-carved-out desert island of egomania on the internet. Like plenty of others on this forum, I'm not here to match wits with some battle-hardened little closet-case troll who has nothing better to do than pick apart other forum users like it really means something. If you don't respect me (and I'm pretty sure you're incapable of respecting anyone), why the *** should I waste time trying to square arguments against your inane mania. I honestly don't care enough to get into a fruitless spat with a worm like you. It's sad that it seems to be all you're really capable of.

Don't worry about trying to match wits with me; you are incapable, and thus you are correct in asserting it would be a supreme waste of your time.  Closet-case?  Ok, by a show of hands, who on here didn't know I was gay?  *looks around*  I don't see any hands.  Fail.  Epic fail.

Anyway, considering the only thing you've done is verbally assault me with a 500 word post, and then use the ammunition of me only "really being capable of" verbally assaulting and writing 500 word posts... wait I already said you failed.  But yeah... fail.  Again.  Also, nice attempt at a deflection.  Well, not really, but that's my 500 word segue into your pathetic attempt at one.  Considering all you've done is trolled me and totally avoided the question I presented to you, in an entirely non-confrontational way, and even going out of my way to stipulate that I would prefer we changed gears and attempted to have a logical discussion, well, you said it best!

It's sad that it seems to be all you're really capable of.

P.S. Where did I mention exterminating Jews or black people in my thread? I specifically mentioned the East Europeans (i.e. Slavs), who the Nazis viewed as complete inferiors, sort of how you look upon other music listeners.

Oh.  Are you refuting the fact that the Nazi's hated Jews and Blacks?  Despite, what does the fact that that wasn't the group you cited have anything to do with calling one a Nazi?  That's semantically and logically equivalent to this conversation:

You: "You're Chinese."
Me: "No, because I don't have Chinese heritage or have lived in China."
You: "WRONG YOU TOTALLY MISSED MY POINT.  You like Chinese food, similar to the Chinese, and thus you are Chinese."


*waits for a 500 word post made of pure hypocrasy about how I'm a jerk after having been provoked purposefully and called names while skating around the subject*

[indutrial]

Don't worry about trying to match wits with me; you are incapable, and thus you are correct in asserting it would be a supreme waste of your time.  Closet-case?  Ok, by a show of hands, who on here didn't know I was gay?  *looks around*  I don't see any hands.  Fail.  Epic fail.

You don't see any hands because I'm sure everyone's so tired of hearing about it that they'd rather ignore you. I'm probably the only one who's paying attention to you and your stupid posts at all, and I'm not even reading the entire damned things. If anything is epic on this forum, look no further than your own track record of turning threads into garbage and then giggling about it gleefully like a 4-year-old who s**t in the tub.

I never even considered a question of your gayness or straightness, since I couldn't imagine any human being wanting to do anything with you after talking to you for 15 minutes. I would be surprised if your own hand didn't try to come up with excuses.

[i heart xenakis]

You don't see any hands because I'm sure everyone's so tired of hearing about it that they'd rather ignore you. I'm probably the only one who's paying attention to you and your stupid posts at all, and I'm not even reading the entire damned things. If anything is epic on this forum, look no further than your own track record of turning threads into garbage and then giggling about it gleefully like a 4-year-old who s**t in the tub.

I never even considered a question of your gayness or straightness, since I couldn't imagine any human being wanting to do anything with you after talking to you for 15 minutes. I would be surprised if your own hand didn't try to come up with excuses.

*waits for a 500 word post made of pure hypocrasy about how I'm a jerk after having been provoked purposefully and called names while skating around the subject*

I was wrong.  He couldn't even muster up 500 words.  Sad.  I keep trying to get back on subject, but all he seems capable of doing is dropping random and generic derogitories =/  Will someone explain this to me?



*waits for a 500 200 word post made of pure hypocrasy about how I'm a jerk after having been provoked purposefully and called names while skating around the subject*


PS- for someone who pretends to be smart, you've been THE easiest person to manipulate into looking like a mouth-foaming pubescent sociopath I've ever dealt with.

[richard black]

Going back to the original question - it's a fun piece and the player could teach a thing or two to most of us classical players in terms of real performance delivery, for want of a better term.

It's also a fair bet he was trained classically - no one is ever going to play like that whose training consisted of playing feeble versions of pop songs in a classroom full of cheap Casio or Yamaha keyboards!

[i heart xenakis]

Going back to the original question - it's a fun piece and the player could teach a thing or two to most of us classical players in terms of real performance delivery, for want of a better term.

So you're a fan of Lang Lang?  I'm sorry; I just don't see how stage presence correlates with musical substance, which I'm fairly sure the topic of this conversation is.  Well that, and me being harassed.

[indutrial]

PS- for someone who pretends to be smart, you've been THE easiest person to manipulate into looking like a mouth-foaming pubescent sociopath I've ever dealt with.

For someone who is somewhat smart, you're certainly utilizing your potential in a fine way. I'm sure Xenakis, Ian Pace, Dusapin, Barlow, or Finnissy (whoever the hell you idolize and namedrop) fritterred away all their developmental years sodding about on web forums (or their equivalent in Xenakis's day) and pining for attention from a bunch of teenagers by insulting people. Since nobody here likes you, what's stopping you from taking your overwhelming intelligence elsewhere and composing all those masterpieces I'm sure you have in the works. When's that magnificent lecture/recital tour going to get booked, huh??? For now, I guess I'll have to start compiling your Pianostreet posts the same way that Max Brod gathered Kafka's written works. The intellectual world won't want to miss this watershed.

[i heart xenakis]

For someone who is somewhat smart, you're certainly utilizing your potential in a fine way. I'm sure Xenakis, Ian Pace, Dusapin, Barlow, or Finnissy (whoever the hell you idolize and namedrop) fritterred away all their developmental years sodding about on web forums (or their equivalent in Xenakis's day) and pining for attention from a bunch of teenagers by insulting people. Since nobody here likes you, what's stopping you from taking your overwhelming intelligence elsewhere and composing all those masterpieces I'm sure you have in the works. When's that magnificent lecture/recital tour going to get booked, huh??? For now, I guess I'll have to start compiling your Pianostreet posts the same way that Max Brod gathered Kafka's written works. The intellectual world won't want to miss this watershed.

Of that list, perhaps I will personally ask Michael Finnissy, Ian Pace and Pascal Dusapin (I can't say I have any correspondence with mister Clarence Barlow, although that could easily be absolved) how they like to relax during their downtime, as they do other, more important things during the rest of the day (an impossible notion, that one would be able to go online and write music in the same day, true?).  Maybe watch TV?  I'm not sure.


Please, tell me where you are next performing on your world tour.   OH!  How silly of me!  You can't ever perform; you're on the internet.  Arguing with a teenager.  Poorly.


PS- weak namedrop of Max Brod.  Common knowledge.

[indutrial]

Of that list, perhaps I will personally ask Michael Finnissy, Ian Pace and Pascal Dusapin (I can't say I have any correspondence with mister Clarence Barlow, although that could easily be absolved) how they like to relax during their downtime, as they do other, more important things during the rest of the day (an impossible notion, that one would be able to go online and write music in the same day, true?).  Maybe watch TV?  I'm not sure.

Don't bother them. I'm sure you're not at the top of their lists of people they want to hear from. They'd probably be annoyed if they knew how violently you've represented them on this forum all these years.

[richard black]

So you're a fan of Lang Lang?

Never heard him live. Is he a rocker on the quiet, then?

[i heart xenakis]

Never heard him live. Is he a rocker on the quiet, then?

Oh hehe no ^^  He's a pianist who's know for some pretty outlandish stage antics and "joygasmic" facial expressions, if you know what I mean =P

[indutrial]

Oh hehe no ^^  He's a pianist who's know for some pretty outlandish stage antics and "joygasmic" facial expressions, if you know what I mean =P

The "joygasmic" expressions are never a problem until the face starts making unusual sounds and singing along involuntarily (Jarrett).

...or you start looking like this