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Offline PhaseSphere

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any suggested Sonata for me?
on: April 21, 2004, 05:45:10 PM
I am in ABRSM Grade 7 now.
Is there any sonata suitable for me??
i would like to learn 1 or 2 sonatas when i am free...
thx

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Re: any suggested Sonata for me?
Reply #1 on: April 21, 2004, 07:05:13 PM
The first Beethoven.

Or maybe the Beethoven in E major - or the one in G major (they're in the same opus - whose number I can't remember).

The Grieg piano sonata is very nice - though not easy, and not often played.

There's a really nice one that Mozart composed shortly after his mother died (I believe it's number 10) in a minor.

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Re: any suggested Sonata for me?
Reply #2 on: April 21, 2004, 07:55:02 PM
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I am in ABRSM Grade 7 now.
Is there any sonata suitable for me??
i would like to learn 1 or 2 sonatas when i am free...
thx

Sphe...


What is the repertoire for ABRSM?? (There's lots of people here who are not from "ABRSM countries."
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Re: any suggested Sonata for me?
Reply #3 on: April 21, 2004, 09:28:20 PM
https://www.abrsm.org/?page=exams/gradedMusicExams/practical/piano/piano0304_G7.html

Personally, I think ABRSM exams are a waste of time. Prepare for your conservatory audition, in the end that's what counts more - or even for the next competition....

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Re: any suggested Sonata for me?
Reply #4 on: April 22, 2004, 11:02:27 AM
Hmoll,

the pieces which i will play for the exam are
1. Fantasia in C (Handel)
   HWV 490
2. Etude in A (Heller)
   No13 Op.45
3. Allegretto (Prokofiev)
   No.3 from Vision fugitives,Op.22

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Re: any suggested Sonata for me?
Reply #5 on: April 22, 2004, 11:33:12 PM
All of these are around grade 7 (some a bit lower, some a bit higher – but you should be able to cope):

Beethoven:
Op. 49 no. 2
Op. 49 no. 1
Op. 79
Op. 14 no. 1, no. 2, no. 3
Op. 10 no. 1, no. 2, no. 3
Op. 2 no.1

See also this thread for a discussion on the relative difficulties of Beethoven sonatas:

https://www.pianoforum.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=repo;action=display;num=1081594962


Haydn:

Haydn wrote around 60 sonatas, all of great musical quality, all underplayed. Almost all of them are around grade 7. Here are some of my favourites amongst the easier ones:

Hob. XVI/8 in G, XVI/9 in F, XVI/10 in C, XVI/4 in D, XVI/12 in A and XVI/27 in G

Mozart:
K 545, K 282, K 283, K331 (the one with the “Turkish March”) and K 570 are the easiest.

Clementi:

You may want to investigate Clementi’s sonatas (not the sonatinas), which Beethoven thought were superior to Mozart’s (and I tend to agree).

C.P.E.Bach:

C. P. E. Bach pretty much invented the classical sonata (and sonata form) and was a huge influence on Mozart. Almost forgotten these days and almost never played, his sonatas are real gems. Again, all of the sonatas are around grade 7-8, so you should be able to manage. I particularly like w62 in G.

Two obscure composers, Christian Latrobe (3 sonatas op. 3) and Fanciszek Lessel (3 sonatas op. 2) are also around grade 5/6 and the style is similar to Haydn.

Best wishes,
Bernhard.


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Re: any suggested Sonata for me?
Reply #6 on: April 23, 2004, 10:33:26 AM
Bernhard
Thx alot
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Reply #7 on: April 24, 2004, 12:30:26 AM
You are welcome! :)
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Re: any suggested Sonata for me?
Reply #8 on: April 24, 2004, 06:03:30 PM
what grade is for the moonlight sonata 3rd movement?
do u think i can pick up this piece?

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Re: any suggested Sonata for me?
Reply #9 on: April 24, 2004, 06:21:28 PM
The Sonata quasi una fantasia Op 27/2 (yes - the beethoven moonlight :P) is not in any ABRSM qualification exam. The third movement is quite demanding, and the entire work requires a lot of stamina. I find, actually, that though the third movement is full of notes and is very fast and dramatic and what-not, the first movement is the hardest one to play well. And yes, I have yet to find someone in the ABRSM grades who plays this well. It's more of a piece you play for conservatory entrance exams... That kind of level. If I were you I'd take a classical sonata in classical sonata form... Even if only to get acquainted with the form.

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Re: any suggested Sonata for me?
Reply #10 on: May 04, 2004, 10:51:13 AM
yea mayb u r right...
thx...

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Reply #11 on: May 12, 2004, 03:00:11 PM
Bernhard, hi
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Mozart:  
K 545, K 282, K 283, K331 (the one with the “Turkish March”) and K 570 are the easiest.


His sonata K331 1st movement seems very difficult...
i found that K332 is more easier than K331...
dunno if i am right?

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Re: any suggested Sonata for me?
Reply #12 on: May 13, 2004, 01:50:15 AM
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Bernhard, hi

His sonata K331 1st movement seems very difficult...
i found that K332 is more easier than K331...
dunno if i am right?


Yes. Perception of difficulty is highly personal and subjective. And I did not say that they were easy. I said they were the easiest... ;)

Anyway, have a look at these threads where Mozart sonatas are discussed.


https://www.pianoforum.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=repo;action=display;num=1033493427

https://www.pianoforum.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=repo;action=display;num=1071461300


Best wishes,
Bernhard.
The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side. (Hunter Thompson)
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