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Offline terrell138

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Beginner Help
on: March 24, 2008, 05:40:30 PM
I am an absolute beginner at the piano but I am an intermediate/advanced guitarist and bassist (I read "TAB" instead of music notation.  I understand the formulas for scales and chords but I am really struggling with the notation (bass and treble at the same time).  Is there any suggestions on how to understand it better?

Offline jlh

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Re: Beginner Help
Reply #1 on: March 24, 2008, 07:24:43 PM
Get some beginner books and sightread them until it gets easier...  ;)
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Offline pianochick93

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Re: Beginner Help
Reply #2 on: March 24, 2008, 11:16:10 PM
Lots of practice, not necessarily all at once, but maybe an hour a night until you get it.
Make up analogies, acronyms, stuff like that to help you remember, and make up flash cards.

Flash cards are really good, and they work well.
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Offline hyrst

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Re: Beginner Help
Reply #3 on: March 26, 2008, 09:26:43 AM
If you can get someone to work with you, print out some manuscript paper and get the other person to write successive notes.  Start with single note progressions, so A goes to B goes to C goes to B, etc.  As that becomes easy, increase to 3rds, 4ths, 5ths and 6ths, and then mix them up - moving up and down. 

Reading is much faster and  easier once you are reading by pattern rather than single notes.  If you don't have soemone who can work with you 15 minutes a few times a week, a sight-reading book will build on the basic patterns more than a beginner's book - but the pieces are not really interesting. 

You can also down load and print tests from PracticeSpot.com so you have practice naming notes.  This will only help so far, though.  The key to reading is pattern recognition in hand with keyboard visualisation.

Good luck.

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Re: Beginner Help
Reply #4 on: March 26, 2008, 09:41:57 AM
The key to reading is pattern recognition in hand with keyboard visualisation.



Yes, absolutely. The single biggest misconception beginners have is that if they can learn the notes on the stave and the key names, then they will be able to read music. It doesn't work like that at all!

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Re: Beginner Help
Reply #5 on: March 26, 2008, 02:56:14 PM
you're not on the good forum my dear...
let's make a club ! in this part of forum who's called "student's corner" people should help the other...but....THEY DON'T
so our club is going called : TDB : the desperate begginer  VS : THO ; the horrible old

Offline Kassaa

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Re: Beginner Help
Reply #6 on: March 26, 2008, 04:32:10 PM
you're not on the good forum my dear...
let's make a club ! in this part of forum who's called "student's corner" people should help the other...but....THEY DON'T
so our club is going called : TDB : the desperate begginer  VS : THO ; the horrible old
Oh shut up you sad f.uck. Everyone tries to help but you think it isn't helpful because you don't want it. You ask stupid things like CAN YOU READ THIS PARTITON FOR ME well NO WE BLOODY CAN'T, we tell you to find a teacher, you shout back YOU AREN'T HELPFUL, you are asked what you want to play so that we can give better help and you say OH I DON'T KNOW, ANYTHING. You are truly the most shitty person to ever come on this forum, behave normally or go away.

Now ontopic, the best way is probably to do it, and get into it using some beginner piano books. After that you can improve it by doing it much.

Offline lucylucy

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Re: Beginner Help
Reply #7 on: March 26, 2008, 04:52:08 PM
Oh shut up you sad f.uck. Everyone tries to help but you think it isn't helpful because you don't want it. You ask stupid things like CAN YOU READ THIS PARTITON FOR ME well NO WE BLOODY CAN'T, we tell you to find a teacher, you shout back YOU AREN'T HELPFUL, you are asked what you want to play so that we can give better help and you say OH I DON'T KNOW, ANYTHING. You are truly the most shitty person to ever come on this forum, behave normally or go away.

Now ontopic, the best way is probably to do it, and get into it using some beginner piano books. After that you can improve it by doing it much.
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Re: Beginner Help
Reply #8 on: March 26, 2008, 06:00:13 PM
!!!! :o
RELAXXXX TAKE IT EASYYYYYYYYYYYY
No you take it easy you worm.

Offline pianochick93

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Re: Beginner Help
Reply #9 on: March 27, 2008, 03:57:55 AM
you're not on the good forum my dear...
let's make a club ! in this part of forum who's called "student's corner" people should help the other...but....THEY DON'T
so our club is going called : TDB : the desperate begginer  VS : THO ; the horrible old

Where did that come from. People on this thread have been helpful so far...
There is no reason to show up in a forum, post random things, and expect everyone to be nice to you either - you spam, you get flamed. It's a way of life. To get people to be nice to you on this forum, you have to be funny, smart, helpful, or generally likeable. You havn't shown any of these qualities yet.
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Re: Beginner Help
Reply #10 on: March 27, 2008, 07:02:10 AM
I finally looked it up. Turns out "troll" in French is -- troll!

Offline lucylucy

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Re: Beginner Help
Reply #11 on: March 29, 2008, 04:05:31 PM
Where did that come from. People on this thread have been helpful so far...
There is no reason to show up in a forum, post random things, and expect everyone to be nice to you either - you spam, you get flamed. It's a way of life. To get people to be nice to you on this forum, you have to be funny, smart, helpful, or generally likeable. You havn't shown any of these qualities yet.
hahaha let me laught !!
there is a lot of diferent person in the world !!!
everyone is not "funny, smart" blablabla....

Offline pianochick93

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Re: Beginner Help
Reply #12 on: March 30, 2008, 02:29:12 AM
hahaha let me laught !!
there is a lot of diferent person in the world !!!
everyone is not "funny, smart" blablabla....

Yes, there are a lot of different people in the world, but most of them would have at least some idea of how to act politely on a forum.
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Offline lucylucy

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Re: Beginner Help
Reply #13 on: April 01, 2008, 07:10:49 PM
Yes, there are a lot of different people in the world, but most of them would have at least some idea of how to act politely on a forum.
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Re: Beginner Help
Reply #14 on: April 02, 2008, 10:13:24 AM
pianochick is running...she run fast...really fast... she jumped across people...run....run...she's behing the goal...she SHOOT AND GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Beginner Help
Reply #15 on: July 06, 2008, 12:02:41 AM
lucylucy

Stop ruining perfectly good threads and show some manners, and maybe, people will actually start being nice to you.
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Re: Beginner Help
Reply #16 on: July 06, 2008, 05:23:18 AM
hmmhmmm...  :)  Good advice...>.<
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Re: Beginner Help
Reply #17 on: July 07, 2008, 07:22:26 AM
Try reading guitar pieces (notes not tab). Then try transcribing to piano notation. Haven't tried it though. But I agree, beginner books are boring.

Notebook of Anna Magdalena Bach is nice but I find it a bit too hard to sight read. Am now using Piano Pieces for Children for sight reading practice. Bach is for memorizing practice. Also, try lead sheets.
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