How did fugues evolve?

[Bob]

Bach didn't "invent" it, did he?   I don't think so.  I'm not exactly sure though.


There was imitation going on before that.  Points of imitation.  What else? 


No... It wasn't Bach.  Fugues were around before Bach.

I suppose I could just look it up on wikipedia....

Unless anyone knows.

[jabbz]

Fugues grew out of cannons, which grew out of general renaissance writing in general. It was just another form of contrapuntal organization that starting developing. Sorry for the brevity of the post, but it's such an expansive topic I don't know where to start.

[Bob]

Hmmm...

I wouldn't mind seeing a brief list, timeline, order of things.

Interventions evolved before fugues, I'm pretty sure.


Points of imitation

Canon

Inventions

Fugues


Is that about it?  Any more to add to that? 


That's also a good way to learn to right a fugue then too.  At least imitation, inventions, and then fugues.

[ryanyee]

ask the person who invented it if u really wanna know!

[keypeg]

Doesn't learning to write things like fugues begin with doing boring theory stuff so you have the basis?  Right now I'm sort of shuffling chords around on paper and on the keyboard in order to understand the basis of harmony.  But somebody gave me an exercise in Fux Species I counterpoint without telling me what it was (got it by the fourth try) and going through it and working toward the rules taught me a lot.  Does one lead to the other, sort of?

[Bob]

ask the person who invented it if u really wanna know!

I think those people are long, long gone.  Not even dust anymore.



My harmony studies had a little about voice-leading.  Studying 1:1 counterpoint is a lot more accurate for fugues though. 

[dnephi]

Fugues grew out of cannons, which grew out of general renaissance writing in general. It was just another form of contrapuntal organization that starting developing. Sorry for the brevity of the post, but it's such an expansive topic I don't know where to start.

I do not see the development of fugues from such weapons of destruction.

[gerry]

I do not see the development of fugues from such weapons of destruction.

Perhaps they did: I understand Howitzer's recording of the M102 is definitive.

[Bob]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugue#History


I'm not finding exactly when the fugue appeared though.  Imitation, canon.... there must be a "first fugue" out there.

[minor9th]

Where does the ricercare fit it the time line?

[ryanyee]

I think those people are long, long gone.  Not even dust anymore.
yes i know that.