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Offline tds

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do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
on: April 19, 2008, 11:48:36 AM
no, yes, yes.
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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #1 on: April 19, 2008, 11:50:07 AM
Who is pocorina?

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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #2 on: April 19, 2008, 11:55:16 AM
the lovely female thingie. wait, was it a he?
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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #3 on: April 19, 2008, 12:44:26 PM
I keep seeing references to "Bernhard" as in "Bernhard said...." - a fount of knowledge?  I "missed out" on all three.

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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #4 on: April 19, 2008, 02:06:58 PM
no, no, sort of

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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #5 on: April 19, 2008, 04:57:07 PM
nonono

Poco's dead.  TB, remember? :P

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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #6 on: April 19, 2008, 05:53:58 PM
n/a, yes, yes

I think the Pocorina thing happened when I just joined so I wasn't following at the time.

The other two made for some very interesting reading.
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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #7 on: April 19, 2008, 06:29:58 PM
No, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo, yes
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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #8 on: April 19, 2008, 06:38:37 PM
Haha, that was fun reading of her daily treatments.  What about superjames or whoever the guy was with the high school recital who could not spell anything?
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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #9 on: April 19, 2008, 06:51:18 PM
I keep seeing references to "Bernhard" as in "Bernhard said...." - a fount of knowledge?  I "missed out" on all three.

Do an "advanced search" and put in "piano practice study" in topic, ( mark: "match any words").
 Put in bernhard for member. Use the Default time period.

A goodly amount of wisdom will pop up.

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Reply #10 on: April 19, 2008, 07:17:30 PM
nny
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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #11 on: April 19, 2008, 07:35:21 PM
Just read "Tuberculosis is forcing me to leave. . . . "


 . . . . . . wow . . . . . .
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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #12 on: April 19, 2008, 07:43:21 PM
Did not know her / NO / did not know him
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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #13 on: April 19, 2008, 07:50:21 PM
no, sort of, yes
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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #14 on: April 20, 2008, 12:56:35 AM
I don't think anyone really misses pianistimo, except for those that like jumping on the "I miss pianistimo" bandwagon just to look cool.

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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #15 on: April 20, 2008, 01:43:40 AM
No, No, No.
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Reply #16 on: April 20, 2008, 01:58:19 AM
I don't think anyone really misses pianistimo, except for those that like jumping on the "I miss pianistimo" bandwagon just to look cool.

I thought the same thing. I don't see why anybody would miss being subjected to her annoying, indecipherable and irrational ramblings. She derailed practically every thread she posted in.

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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #17 on: April 20, 2008, 02:05:06 AM
I never met pianistimo, but I would love for her to come back, mainly because I think she'd be interesting to chat with - but I'm sure that after a while it would get a *little* old.

Still find her fascinating, though. To study, I guess. . . (maybe not to know, if that makes any sense at all). Would love to know WHERE her fanaticism stems from and what her kids are like. Her husband . . . ? There's a whole different world of people out there - and I'd love to know their stories.
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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #18 on: April 20, 2008, 06:31:35 PM
I never met pianistimo, but I would love for her to come back

Trust me. NO you wouldn't.

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Reply #19 on: April 20, 2008, 06:41:10 PM
yes, you are correct, retro.

silly me for remembering that only you can tell me what i want.

won't make the same mistake again, master *limps away.*
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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #20 on: April 20, 2008, 06:44:46 PM
No need to have that attitude now. I'm just saying that because you haven't met her or had an altercation with her of any kind that you do not know the extent of her bad attitude and annoying nature that has caused most of the forum to not want her back.

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Reply #21 on: April 20, 2008, 06:51:55 PM
I've read many of her posts, and find her fascinating. To each his/her own.

No need to have that attitude now.

Was being facetious. . . . and, uh, you did it again.
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Reply #22 on: April 20, 2008, 06:53:36 PM
And I'm not so sure that she has a quote "bad attitude." I don't agree with her on MANNNYYY things she says (well, probably all of them) but I think I could learn from her. That's what this life is about, imho.
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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #23 on: April 20, 2008, 07:05:41 PM
but I think I could learn from her.

Yeh, you could learn how the Grand Canyon was formed in 200 years.

Enlightening eh?

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Reply #24 on: April 20, 2008, 07:10:09 PM
Was referring to the degenerative effects of being so closed-minded.
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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #25 on: April 21, 2008, 02:15:04 AM
I miss pianitisimo in a way, although when she posted about music theory, her ideas were totally bizarre and way off.  When she posted about music history, she seemed to copy and paste enormous amounts of information unrelated about the topic, from wikipedia.  When she advised people on their concert programs, she didn't switch the order of pieces around, she just invented new programs out of thin air, that were totally unrelated to their original ideas.  I am getting irritated just typing this. 

But it always meant an opportunity to post a very detailed response, and make sure that facts were set straight.  The more she was wrong, the more I got to post corrections and employ my own knowledge.  And she was wrong often.

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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #26 on: April 21, 2008, 03:12:37 AM
(so....did pianistimo just drop away?  Anyone know why?)

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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #27 on: April 21, 2008, 10:43:12 AM
I met pianistimo and her family last summer. I still hear the words of her little daughter when I left Philadelphia : byyee byyeeee pianowoooolfi :) I can assure you that her family lives a quite normal life, they are nice people. She decided to take a break from ps. I guess she's fine. Guess she has now set her priorities differently.

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Reply #28 on: April 21, 2008, 02:17:51 PM
 That's good to know.  Thank you, pianowolfi.

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Reply #29 on: April 21, 2008, 07:13:56 PM
I can assure you that her family lives a quite normal life

Interesting use of the word quite.

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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #30 on: April 21, 2008, 07:23:24 PM
Well, let's see.

One was a 15 year old girl pretending to be dying of tuberculosis and the other was a women filled with hatred who seemed to be delusional about her beliefs.

What's not to like about these two?

Heck, I'm starting to fall in love with both of them myself.

Putting the kind-hearted and always helpful Bernard in the same category as these two is nuts.


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Reply #31 on: April 21, 2008, 07:49:09 PM
Ad 1) N/A (haven't been around at that time, although I have read *the* thread, since it is one of those that have somehow become a part of the forum folklore...)
Ad 2) Kind of. I mean, I didn't really believe anyone could be so consistently so free of any semblance of logic. She did teach me a lesson there... for sure ::)
Ad 3) Well, obviously yes! Who wouldn't?
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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #32 on: April 21, 2008, 07:58:24 PM
Well, let's see.

One was a 15 year old girl pretending to be dying of tuberculosis and the other was a women filled with hatred who seemed to be delusional about her beliefs.

What's not to like about these two?

Heck, I'm starting to fall in love with both of them myself.

Putting the kind-hearted and always helpful Bernard in the same category as these two is nuts.

Well said.

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Reply #33 on: April 21, 2008, 08:41:12 PM
She was not filled with hatred.  You guys are ridiculous.
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Reply #34 on: April 21, 2008, 08:42:41 PM
She was not filled with hatred.

No she was not, but a lot of it came out in her posts.
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Reply #35 on: April 22, 2008, 02:04:04 AM
No she was not, but a lot of it came out in her posts.

Hatred did not come out in her posts imho (except toward thalbergmad, who defended himself very well from it).

She simply had a notion that pretty much everyone was wrong about everything.  That is not hatred.  She really thought she was helping us to realize the "truth".  I think.

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Reply #36 on: April 22, 2008, 02:43:35 AM
No she was not, but a lot of it came out in her posts.

Sounds like a perception issue, to me.

As dnephi and thalberg said, I don't think she intended to seem full of spite or hatred. She is just the product of close-mindedness, something that we are all capable of at one point or another in our lives. Have some compassion. Look at things from her perspective. The only difference between her spouting her beliefs and everyone else spouting theirs is the fact that hers, admittedly, were about 87% incoherent, with the added benefit that practically everyone else's beliefs differ from hers. How is her objecting to certain philosophies any different than you defending them? How is her objection rightfully weighed any less than yours? Don't be close-minded yourselves; only you will seem like the hypocrites.

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Reply #37 on: April 22, 2008, 02:53:03 AM
Sounds like a perception issue, to me.

As dnephi and thalberg said, I don't think she intended to seem full of spite or hatred. She is just the product of close-mindedness, something that we are all capable of at one point or another in our lives. Have some compassion. Look at things from her perspective. The only difference between her spouting her beliefs and everyone else spouting theirs is the fact that hers, admittedly, were about 87% incoherent, with the added benefit that practically everyone else's beliefs differ from hers. How is her objecting to certain philosophies any different than you defending them? How is her objection rightfully weighed any less than yours?

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Reply #38 on: April 22, 2008, 02:57:28 AM
Hatred did not come out in her posts imho (except toward thalbergmad, who defended himself very well from it).

She simply had a notion that pretty much everyone was wrong about everything.  That is not hatred.  She really thought she was helping us to realize the "truth".  I think.
To be honest, most of those posts by you guys against her, claiming that she was outrageous, was really a theatrical act to garner attention for yourself at her expense.

It is really a perception issue- or pretended perception.
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Reply #39 on: April 22, 2008, 03:07:24 AM
She was not filled with hatred.  You guys are ridiculous.

No, you're right Dnephi she wasn't filled with hatred, prejudice and ignorance.  God was; she was but a channel speaking Jesus' word, as she put so many times.

"I don't hate Jews; God just hates them and thinks they'll go to Hell."

"I don't hate gays; God just hates them and thinks they'll go to Hell."

"I don't hate Catholics; God just hates them and thinks they'll go to Hell."

"I don't hate science; God just doesn't believe in carbon dating or astrophysics."


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Reply #40 on: April 22, 2008, 03:13:46 AM
" God FIRST loved us "
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Reply #41 on: April 22, 2008, 03:58:55 AM
dignity, love and joy.

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Re: do you miss pocorina? pianistimo? bernhard?
Reply #42 on: April 24, 2008, 12:29:24 PM
I wasn't around when pocorina or bernhard were here, and I wasn't around for most of pianistimo's time.

I do slightly miss the discussions though, and like Essyne, I found her fascinating, in an odd kind of way.
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Reply #43 on: April 24, 2008, 04:45:05 PM
I miss super666lucifer.
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Reply #44 on: April 24, 2008, 07:40:19 PM
Pocorina - somewhat.  We were had, but she was just someone begging for attention, and in a somewhat harmless way. She was still deserving of prayers even if it wasn't for TB.  Good story though.

Pianistimo - gives religion a bad name. Though her threads made for interesting reading if you felt like getting your hackles up.

Bernhard - dearly missed.  A source of knowledge and inspiration.  Where art thou?  Anyone know?

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Reply #45 on: April 24, 2008, 08:36:32 PM
Bernhard is the only one worth missing. That is the lesson to be learned here.

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Reply #46 on: April 24, 2008, 09:07:26 PM
Bernhard is the only one worth missing. That is the lesson to be learned here.

Well said.  :)

Although he left before I was here, I have learned much from his posts.  8)

If he did come back, he would be bombarded with help questions.  ;D
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