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Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)

on: April 21, 2008, 08:02:37 PM

Does somebody have the prelude and fugue for me?

I want to play this piece so badly, but can't find the scores

I'd be so grateful.

Tom

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)

Reply #1 on: April 21, 2008, 08:11:32 PM

I have never really liked this transcription.

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Liszt - Bach - Fantasy & Fugue.PDF (1586.81 kB - downloaded 114 times.)

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)

Reply #2 on: April 21, 2008, 08:12:54 PM

Absolutely great organ piece. Possibly not too effective in transcription, but I haven't really heard a Cziffra/Berman/Horowitz/Rachmaninoff/Busoni performance so I might not be able to judge.
The piano version retains the contrapuntal ingenuity but lacks somewhat the intensity of the organ.

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)

Reply #3 on: April 21, 2008, 08:14:45 PM

Quote from: dnephi on April 21, 2008, 08:12:54 PM

The piano version retains the contrapuntal ingenuity but lacks somewhat the intensity of the organ.

That is exactly how i feel.

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)

Reply #4 on: April 21, 2008, 08:20:10 PM

What do you think of Busoni's transcriptions?

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)

Reply #5 on: April 21, 2008, 09:06:27 PM

In general i prefer them, but he did not attempt this one.

I love Bach transciptions, but not many of the organ ones. I don't think that the piano can do justice to them.

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)

Reply #6 on: April 21, 2008, 09:24:06 PM

Heartily agreed. This is the kind of piece I would not even want to hear attempted on piano. I think I'll just sit back with my Kevin Bowyer recording of this wonderful Fantasia and Fugue.

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)

Reply #7 on: April 21, 2008, 09:28:33 PM

Personally, I like Weissenberg's Toccata and Fugue in D minor performance. Now THAT's intense.

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)

Reply #8 on: April 22, 2008, 09:51:17 PM

Thank you Thal!

I really love the theme of this piece but also think that Liszt over does the piece a bit too much. It's a bit too bombastic to my taste.

However, we'll see what we can make of it. If it's possible to leave sections or notes out to simplify and de-bombastify the work a bit it would really fit my taste.

By the way, do you happen the have the Aminor fugue as well? (S462)
Thanks in advance,
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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)

Reply #9 on: April 22, 2008, 10:24:00 PM

Yes old chap.

Thal

Liszt - (Bach) The Great Prelude & Fugue in a, bwv 543.pdf (4604.54 kB - downloaded 80 times.)

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)

Reply #10 on: April 24, 2008, 10:55:33 AM

Awesome, thank you very much.

Tom

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)

Reply #11 on: April 26, 2008, 04:59:48 PM

Here are a couple of transcriptions by Tagliapietra.

Regards,

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Tagliapietra - Bach's BWV542, Fantasia and Fugue in G minor.pdf (990.02 kB - downloaded 67 times.)

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)

Reply #12 on: April 26, 2008, 10:37:33 PM

Are Tagliapietra's transcriptions a whole lot different from liszt's ?

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Reply #13 on: April 26, 2008, 11:25:22 PM

Very much so. I think they're terribly tasteless, tbh. The texture is just so weird.

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)

Reply #14 on: April 26, 2008, 11:55:09 PM

Agreed, I do not like his transcriptions.

I cannot play them either

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