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Offline liszt-essence

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Does somebody have the prelude and fugue for me?

I want to play this piece so badly, but can't find the scores :(

I'd be so grateful.

Tom


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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)
Reply #1 on: April 21, 2008, 08:11:32 PM
I have never really liked this transcription.

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)
Reply #2 on: April 21, 2008, 08:12:54 PM
Absolutely great organ piece.  Possibly not too effective in transcription, but I haven't really heard a Cziffra/Berman/Horowitz/Rachmaninoff/Busoni performance so I might not be able to judge. 
The piano version retains the contrapuntal ingenuity but lacks somewhat the intensity of the organ.
For us musicians, the music of Beethoven is the pillar of fire and cloud of mist which guided the Israelites through the desert.  (Roughly quoted, Franz Liszt.)

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)
Reply #3 on: April 21, 2008, 08:14:45 PM
The piano version retains the contrapuntal ingenuity but lacks somewhat the intensity of the organ.

That is exactly how i feel.

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)
Reply #4 on: April 21, 2008, 08:20:10 PM
What do you think of Busoni's transcriptions?
For us musicians, the music of Beethoven is the pillar of fire and cloud of mist which guided the Israelites through the desert.  (Roughly quoted, Franz Liszt.)

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)
Reply #5 on: April 21, 2008, 09:06:27 PM
In general i prefer them, but he did not attempt this one.

I love Bach transciptions, but not many of the organ ones. I don't think that the piano can do justice to them.

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)
Reply #6 on: April 21, 2008, 09:24:06 PM
Heartily agreed. This is the kind of piece I would not even want to hear attempted on piano. I think I'll just sit back with my Kevin Bowyer recording of this wonderful Fantasia and Fugue.

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)
Reply #7 on: April 21, 2008, 09:28:33 PM
Personally, I like Weissenberg's Toccata and Fugue in D minor performance.  Now THAT's intense.
For us musicians, the music of Beethoven is the pillar of fire and cloud of mist which guided the Israelites through the desert.  (Roughly quoted, Franz Liszt.)

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)
Reply #8 on: April 22, 2008, 09:51:17 PM
Thank you Thal!

I really love the theme of this piece but also think that Liszt over does the piece a bit too much. It's a bit too bombastic to my taste.

However, we'll see what we can make of it. If it's possible to leave sections or notes out to simplify and de-bombastify the work a bit it would really fit my taste.

By the way, do you happen the have the Aminor fugue as well? (S462)
Thanks in advance,
Tom

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)
Reply #9 on: April 22, 2008, 10:24:00 PM
Yes old chap.

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)
Reply #10 on: April 24, 2008, 10:55:33 AM
Awesome, thank you very much.

Tom

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)
Reply #11 on: April 26, 2008, 04:59:48 PM
Here are a couple of transcriptions by Tagliapietra.

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)
Reply #12 on: April 26, 2008, 10:37:33 PM
Are Tagliapietra's transcriptions a whole lot different from liszt's ?

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)
Reply #13 on: April 26, 2008, 11:25:22 PM
Very much so.  I think they're terribly tasteless, tbh.  The texture is just so weird.
For us musicians, the music of Beethoven is the pillar of fire and cloud of mist which guided the Israelites through the desert.  (Roughly quoted, Franz Liszt.)

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Re: Bach-Liszt Fantasia & fugue in Gm (S463) and (BWV542)
Reply #14 on: April 26, 2008, 11:55:09 PM
Agreed, I do not like his transcriptions.

I cannot play them either ;D.

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