Time and Its "Value"

[Essyne]

Okay, so what about time? In my “humble” opinion, it is impossible to waste any amount of time. Every moment has purpose, because every moment has already been decided before our souls even inhabited our flesh. When one argues that hey have “wasted time sleeping/playing too many computer games/etc when they should have traveled more/discovered the world,” I think that they’ve discovered something much more valuable – themselves. They’ve learned that this is not how they wish to live their lives anymore, and it gives them the initiative to move forward and to grow and to prosper, so it was not time “wasted” – it was time well spent.

I think that one should never regret life/lack of “living.” Bad experiences should only allow one to appreciate their life and to be grateful that they lived through such experiences. The individual should emerge knowing that he/she will never repeat the cycle, and be content with that.

Everything in this life – and every life – is a lesson. . . . . Let’s not be so judgmental!!

~Ess~

[Bob]

You're going to turn into a m1469.  Be careful.    

I guess I don't agree with the idea that every moment is pre-destined.  I think we control that. 

[Petter]

I guess I don't agree with the idea that every moment is pre-destined.  I think we control that. 

I think we unfortunately are victims of social structures and biological flaws we can´t do anything about. So it´s pre-destined allright. And it sucks.

[Bob]

Well, we do have some choice within that structure.  And the structure is something.  We couldn't do things without that.  Like music. 

Hmm... but I suppose our choices are kind of limited too though...  There is always the unknown.  We could do something brand new.  That still is possible. Although that could be pre-determined too I suppose. 

So who's controlling all this?

[Petter]

The ones with the most money.

[Bob]

True.  Business.  Military.  Government.  Technology.  The economy.

[s_bussotti]

True.  Business.  Military.  Government.  Technology.  The economy.

Don't forget Nils.


Anything, this thread degenerated into a pseudo-intellectual "A Clockwork Orange".  How bout we get back on track?

[Petter]

Show us how. 

[Bob]

If it's pre-destined, the thread will get itself back on track.

[thierry13]

I think what people understand by destiny and liberty of choice is a bit limited and fantasist. There is only one world, and time only goes forward (by itself, if you do not go faster than lightspeed). So there is only one "possibility" of how things happen. Things happen the way they are and you can't change that. Our choices are influenced by everything, and of course, changing even one single particle 10 million years ago would have made an enormous difference today. So there IS destiny as in : things will happen in one precise way, but we DO have the choice to do something or the other, but once it's done, it's history and is part of destiny. Liberty of choice, and the science that studies why we make those choices, is a very very very very complex thing, but I think a super-supreme computer or mind (god perhaps), could tell exactly how everything is going to happen. We DO take choices as beings, but those choices are influenced by so many things that we don't know why we make those choices. There is an illusion in this, but the illusion is not that we have the choice. The illusion is to think you know WHY you did that choice.