Selection of studies

[gerryjay]

 dear all!

 i must choose some studies to play in the next semester, but the possibilities are so many, that i'm a bit lost. furthermore, i donīt want to kill myself with some nightmarish work. so, i ask for your kind help.

 (the last pieces i completed are mozart's sonata 332, brahms' rhapsody opus 79/2, and a handful of debussy's preludes. and now i'm on chopin's opus 10/12, and it is going very well.)

 btw, i need 10 studies, at least one from each of the composers listed below (it's possible to add another composer to the list, provided i play those):
 - chopin (although i already picked one up, i'm thankful for another suggestions);
 - liszt;
 - rachmaninov;
 - debussy;
 - ligeti or another contemporary composer.

 thanks in advance for any suggestion. best!

[gerryjay]

 anyone? i would actually apreciate any help!
 thanks!
 

[pmz310]

Chopin-Op. 10 No. 4
            Op. 25 No. 2
            Op. 25 No. 6 
   
Liszt-  TE No. 2 "Molto Vivace"
               No. 12 "Chasse Neige"
 

thats all at the top of my head   
       

[pelajarpiano]

Mozart - Rondo Alla Turca -----> easy to play

Chopin - Nocturne in C# m no.20
            - etude op 25 no.12
            - ballad op.23

Liszt    -  Transcendental Etude No 1

Maybe that's great to can play them.

[gerryjay]

 thanks for your suggestions.
 btw, isnīt chopin' opus 25/12 too difficult? i just love it, but i thought it was kind of hard.
 anyway, i'll look for them now.
 best!

[welltemperedpianist]

wow, 10 Studies -- (I'm guessing Etudes?) in an year is pretty tough to master... I guess you wont be playing much other works seriously otherwise.

Why dont you list those pieces you were considering to learn?? That way, we would have an idea what you were thinking.

As for studies, I've only learned a bunch of Chopin... 25-No.12 is really showy, but pretty managable. I would say, perhaps, Op. 10 No. 3, or Op. 25 No. 1 -- are both nice. Op. 25 No. 9 (Butterfly Etude) is a delightful and fun piece as well

Good luck choosing!

[sharon_f]

I agree with welltempered 10 is a lot. He wrote in a year, but didn't you say one semester? 10 in one semester is an awful lot. Is there a reason why you must include different composers.

Looking at your current rep, I would focus on several of the Chopin: Op. 25, Nos. 1, 2 & 6, Op.10, Nos. 3, 5, 9 & 8.

For Liszt look at "La Chasse" No. 5 of the Paganini Etudes. It is probably the most manageable of his etudes.

A few of the Rachmaninov Etudes Tableaux are not tremendously difficult. Look at the G-minor and E-flat major from the first set and the A-minor (#2 NOT #6) from the second set.

As far as Debussy and Ligeti, I can't make any recommendations since I am not familiar with their etudes, though I've heard they are quite difficult.

[pelajarpiano]

thanks for your suggestions.
 btw, isnīt chopin' opus 25/12 too difficult? i just love it, but i thought it was kind of hard.
 anyway, i'll look for them now.
 best!

Oh...sorry i make mistake. chopin op.25/12 is hard. i agree with welltemper, you can try chopin op.25/1 and op.25/2

[gerryjay]

 dear all!
 thank you very much for your attention and suggestions. let me explain further my needs. the idea to start is to choose 10 etudes as different as i can. then, from that list, my teacher and i will pick up the least complex to start, and then proceed to the others. since my nearest goal is a graduate audition in the end of the next year, i have a year and a half to play those etudes, and to choose like 4 or 5 to really master.

 letīs recap the suggestions:
 chopin's opus 10, nn. 3, 4, 5, 8, 9;
 chopin's opus 25, nn. 1, 2, 6, 9;
 liszt's TE 1, 2, 12;
 liszt's PE 5.

 i think that cover both composers. i was thinking, and i want to have 4 or 5 chopin, and 1 liszt. so, that represents half way there.
 to complete my list, do you think there are etudes of similar difficulty among rach's or debussy's? among debussy's, it will be kind of perfect playing his octave etude, but i'm not sure if it's too much for me now. what do you think?

 anyway, let me thank you all again, because you are very helpful.

 best!
 
 well

 

[syncope]

Rachmaninov op 33 no. 7 in E flat major ("Church bells") is great and very manageble

[sharon_f]

letīs recap the suggestions:
 chopin's opus 10, nn. 3, 4, 5, 8, 9;
 chopin's opus 25, nn. 1, 2, 6, 9;
 liszt's TE 1, 2, 12;
 liszt's PE 5.
 

Don't forget also
rach etude Tableaux op 33, 7 & 8
rach etude tableaux op 39, 2

[gerryjay]

 hey sharon!

 sorry...i read only the first part of your former post. when i saw "La chasse", i did run to listen to it, and afterwards i haven't resume reading...blame on me!
 anyway, thanks for the remark: i'm really fond of rach's etudes, and those three you suggested are very cool. i'd rather include one of each opus number in my list.
 
 about ligeti, i love his music, but i think i must agree: they are quite difficult, and i assume that they're too much for me now.

 best!

[gerryjay]

 so...the updated list now is:
 chopin's opus 10, nn. 3, 4, 5, 8, 9;
 chopin's opus 25, nn. 1, 2, 6, 9;
 liszt's TE 1, 2, 12;
 liszt's PE 5;
 rach's opus 33, nn. 7, 8;
 rach's opus 39, n. 2.

 but i have made some choices by now:
1. chopin's opus 10/8
2. chopin's opus 10/12
3. chopin's opus 25/2
4. chopin's opus 25/9
5. liszt's la chasse
6. debussy's pour les octaves
7. debussy's
8. rach's opus 33/8 (g minor)
9. rach's opus 39/2 (a minor)
10. ?
 
 what do you think about this set? to complete it, i need now another debussy and a non-tonal work, both requests from my teacher. i'm wondering about bennett's studies: did anybody played them?