oh and btw,

[tds]

wouldn't it be nice to be able to listen to those who have posted regularly, and/or have talked alot about all aspects in piano playing. just thinking out loud. tds

[rc]

You mean in the audition room?

I've been thinking about it for a while.  Might as well make a little project of it this summer. I'm sure I could use some constructive criticism

[tds]

yes in the audition room. and yes, do it. u might get alot of compliments too. 

but really, i have noticed a lot of  people who talk heaps and confidently about piano playing in general, be that in giving suggestions, complimenting, criticizing, arguing, listing their repertoire or even gossiping. i am curious to hear the playing behinds the many words they posted in the forum.

for instance, i was once so curious to listen to bernhard's playing. i have learnt alot from his posts and was expecting to learn one or two things by his demonstrations. sadly, he left us  . there are but lots of regulars each comes with their unique forum style and loads of pianistic things to say. and naturally, i get curious. any one feels the same? tds

[rob47]

wouldn't it be nice to be able to listen to those who have posted regularly, and/or have talked alot about all aspects in piano playing. just thinking out loud. tds

steinwaytony had a more aggressive approach to this question two years ago:

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,9505.msg96255.html#msg96255

 

[tds]

i am sure some of us can really play what we claim. and besides maybe its not all about inflated ego. bernhard, for instance, or some of us who don't have the necessary equipment, or even to shy to dazzle people and receive compliments. but yes, the thread link you jotted in can indeed be part of my curiosity, but not entirely nor exclusively. tds

[rc]

I know what you mean tds.  Sometimes the things people say resonates with me and I feel like they're speaking from experience.

Sometimes it sounds so similar to something I've read somewhere else I wonder if they're just regurgitating words.

Sometimes I wonder if they have any idea what they're saying.

I'm probably guilty of talking better than I play, but I'm in.  I'll practice something up, bust out the recordamajig and post something in a few days.

Get ready for the most dazzling A major scale!

[Petter]

Here, but Im disqualified already.

[faulty_damper]

I definitely agree with you.  We want evidence that what someone states can be verified by others, not just because he claims it is true.  If it is verified that he can really perform at the piano and make music, then it would so much easier to take what he says with less doubt.  In other words, we would believe him.

But belief also has consequences.  What if what he says is wrong?  What if we end up practicing Hanon exercises, scales and arpeggios for 4 hours a day because he says so and it obviously worked for him?  And if we are suckered into his routine thinking we'd get the same results...?

Who's doubting?  I believe him!  I'll be practicing for the next 4 hours.

[rachfan]

Sounds like a great idea! 

[ramseytheii]

I definitely agree with you.  We want evidence that what someone states can be verified by others, not just because he claims it is true.  If it is verified that he can really perform at the piano and make music, then it would so much easier to take what he says with less doubt.  In other words, we would believe him.

But belief also has consequences.  What if what he says is wrong?  What if we end up practicing Hanon exercises, scales and arpeggios for 4 hours a day because he says so and it obviously worked for him?  And if we are suckered into his routine thinking we'd get the same results...?

Who's doubting?  I believe him!  I'll be practicing for the next 4 hours.

Actually, any time you take advice from a person it comes down to trust.  I have known many people who can play the piano without any problems, but who give the worst possible advice.  My best teacher, who had the widest knowledge about the piano, and who understood it instinctively better than anyone else I've met (and was able to communicate his instinct), said he couldn't play because of a medical condition which prevented him from feeling two out of ten of his fingers.  Maybe he could never play; I don't know, and I don't care.

In the end, if you take advice from someone, you do it either because you trust them, or because their advice has disturbed your mental status quo so much that you have to try it out, even against your own ingrained interests.  If you think someone is wrong about their advice, say so.  Don't try and prove it with how they play the piano.

Walter Ramsey

[ramseytheii]

steinwaytony had a more aggressive approach to this question two years ago:

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,9505.msg96255.html#msg96255

 

Yes, I would say this approach is decidedly more passive-aggressive.

Walter Ramsey

[pianochick93]

I would record my playing...but I don't have anything to do it with.

[invictious]

I certainly would have done so, if I hadn't went on hiatus for two years and now I'm playing Debussy's 1st Arabesque..

Besides, I do not have a good environment for recording. So....

[general disarray]

Has everyone here already forgotten about the infamous Joyce Hatto?

In this digital age, anything can be faked.  I don't trust the Audition Room anymore than I trust anyone's opinion about anything.  If the opinion gets me thinking, I test it out.  Period.  The proof is in the pudding -- not the friggin' Audition Room.

[tds]

Here, but Im disqualified already.

fun! (ur recording, that is )

[arensky]

Here, but Im disqualified already.

I like it too; Elizabethan Bill Evans, arranged by Hindemith! 

[rc]

Thanks Petter I enjoyed that too

Also, how do I convert .wav -> .mp3?

Dealing with digital recorders is annoying.  After getting the right cable, I tried to trim the track and wound up destroying my good take   I have a halfway good take to convert, I'll probably try a few more to see if I can get rid of those bum notes.

[tompilk]

also, some people may be good critics but poor pianists themselves. Professional sports coaches are never as good as their pupils, but still help them to progress...

[tds]

also, some people may be good critics but poor pianists themselves. Professional sports coaches are never as good as their pupils, but still help them to progress...

yeah, but the thing is everybody can be a critic. in fact, critisizing is one of the easiest things to do in the history of mankind: almost as easy as walking or eating, maybe?-please correct me if i am wrong.

and now here comes the question: how many good critics are there in this forum? THAT should be the question. question of the day, maybe? no? tds

ps. and question for tomorrow: how many of us think that we, selves, are good critics?

[Petter]

Thanks Petter I enjoyed that too

Also, how do I convert .wav -> .mp3?

Dealing with digital recorders is annoying.  After getting the right cable, I tried to trim the track and wound up destroying my good take   I have a halfway good take to convert, I'll probably try a few more to see if I can get rid of those bum notes.

Thanks 

There´s alot of free software for converting, I dont remember what I used but this looks userfriendly
https://www.download.com/Free-Mp3-Wma-Converter/3000-2140_4-10442362.html?tag=lst-10&cdlPid=10850717

Or just do a search for mp3 wav converter on download.com

[tompilk]

yeah, but the thing is everybody can be a critic. in fact, critisizing is one of the easiest things to do in the history of mankind: almost as easy as walking or eating, maybe?-please correct me if i am wrong.

and now here comes the question: how many good critics are there in this forum? THAT should be the question. question of the day, maybe? no? tds

ps. and question for tomorrow: how many of us think that we, selves, are good critics?

You're right. Perhaps I was too general in my reply. I completely agree.

[dnephi]

Two weeks from today, I will try to make a videorecording of myself playing a piece, prefaced by an introduction and followed by (You guessed it!) a conclusion.

[concerto_love]

it'll be nice... But if I play a terrible messy in such an easy piece, would you guys laugh at me...? >.<

[dnephi]

it'll be nice... But if I play a terrible messy in such an easy piece, would you guys laugh at me...? >.<

We'd be much more likely to cry https://professorsstrikeback.mtvu.com/christopher-highley-ohio-state-university/.

[rc]

Thanks again Petter, that program was easy to use!

I'm glad I decided to begin with something simpler because recording was a mind game.  I did one more take and got it fairly clean. Funny thing - towards the end I wound up fighting distraction from the thought of not having many weird slipups

Here ya go, Invention 12 in A:

https://www3.telus.net/caswelro/JSBach%20-%20Invention%2012%20in%20A.mp3

[tds]

that is cool, rc! was it a clavinova btw?

[rc]

Thanks tds, it was a fun project! I'll have to do more every so often, I'm wondering how much of the bum notes were from recording-nerves or if I could be practicing for more consistant technique.

That's my digital piano, the setting is supposed to sound like a concert grand .  After seeing a jazz pianist my brother was so excited he ran out and bought it, then I wound up being the only one using it.

[tds]

Thanks tds, it was a fun project! I'll have to do more every so often, I'm wondering how much of the bum notes were from recording-nerves or if I could be practicing for more consistant technique.

That's my digital piano, the setting is supposed to sound like a concert grand .  After seeing a jazz pianist my brother was so excited he ran out and bought it, then I wound up being the only one using it.

i know what you mean, rc. performer himself is the most critical person when it comes to wrong/missing notes. listeners however seek to enjoy and connect with (the interpretation of) music. of course it can always be better when we apply correct, effective practice. as i said earlier, it is cool. next, u may wanna work on evenness tho, maybe?

i c. it sounds like my clavinova. tds

[rc]

Yes I hear what you mean, there are a few bumpy bits and it sounds like I'm dragging a bit in the sequencing figurations.  It could definitely benefit from some ironing out!

Are there any tds recordings?

[tds]

Yes I hear what you mean, there are a few bumpy bits and it sounds like I'm dragging a bit in the sequencing figurations.  It could definitely benefit from some ironing out!

Are there any tds recordings?

oh, but do it on the "silk" mode will you? too much heat isn't necessary for this fine "material"

yes, i posted one or two in the audition room. i also have a few youtube vids. here is a couple of them if you are interested:

[rc]

I am impressed tds, thanks for sharing!  Very expressive, all about the music start to finish.  I'm inspired to get practicing!

On a sidenote, I've been watching some art documentaries recently, mostly painters, and a sculptor, and it's helped me to better understand impressionist music a little better too (the Ravel).  I think what's difficult about impressionist art for me is the vagueness of the expression, even moreso for abstract art, while I have an easier time with art expressed with more specific subjects, a more clearly defined structure.

Anyways, here's something I found while searching what 'Oiseaux tristes' means, something inspired by Ravels composition:

[tds]

thanks rc. i always try my best to focus on music. sometimes, i get it, other times i don't. but how many times do i get distracted, or get a lil uncertain in some passages, which immediately boots me out of a trance state?

btw, the picture is close to what i imagine (tho mine with more trees). bright hot summer day, where a couple of birds are lost from their flock into a foreign, very dark, lush forest.

when i play ravel's oiseaux tristes i have clear "video" in my head every measure. i love this piece. i think it is a perfect piece of art. tds

[richard black]

Has everyone here already forgotten about the infamous Joyce Hatto?

In this digital age, anything can be faked.  I don't trust the Audition Room anymore than I trust anyone's opinion about anything.

Good point. What if I post something of which the only commercial recording is by me - will you believe that?

 

[tds]

What if I post something ...?

post