Anyone else consider rap to not be "real" music?

[donjuan]

  We have Rap music in my country, and these rapers are 50-60 year old men living up the mountain raping about god knows what.

     Anyway nothing wrong with Rap, its just when rapers talk about killing him/her doing drugs, ..

two "p"s in "rapping"  haha... 60 yr old men...

[pianorama]

Just because it does not meet your approval or standards of music does not mean it is not.

? Look at what I said more closely:

(Most) rap is a low form of music... To me, it's just combinations of noise, sound and beats, which just barely defines it as music. If you listen to the actual music (not the lyrics) it is mostly just a beat. There is very little, or no melody. The thing that disturbes me most are the lyrics. It's mostly just nonsensical monotonous ramblings and swearing. A lot of rap lyrics is just talking to the beat.
It definatley is music, but I would rather listen to Maksim, and I'm no Maksim lover.

I never once said it was not music, though the thing about the ramblings does contradict myself a bit. What I meant was nonsensible rambling swearing music.