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Offline tanman

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Re: IS PIANISTIMO BACK???
Reply #50 on: July 30, 2008, 11:58:24 PM
You speak much but reveal little.


me wonders if hinty speaks like this in real life...
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Re: IS PIANISTIMO BACK???
Reply #51 on: July 31, 2008, 05:39:40 AM
You speak much but reveal little.
me wonders if hinty speaks like this in real life...
That was Thal speaking (or rather writing). If you really want to know how I speak you'll obviously have to find out by means other than reading posts; I might add that there are differences of application between the spoken and written word for most people.

And while we're about it, unless anyone here has any specific objection to my name Alistair or to its inclusion in posts, might I respectfully suggest that it be used in preference to the above when referring to me? I'm sure that this is not too much to ask...

Thank you in advance.

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Offline debussy symbolism

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Re: IS PIANISTIMO BACK???
Reply #52 on: July 31, 2008, 09:11:44 PM
Methinks that you perpetrate a presumably unintentional double negative here; well, so what? I cannot be bothered to ask myself (since no such points have in any case even been noticed)...
On what basis do you have no such choice? I think that you owe us an explanation of that at the very least.
Does it really? You could have fooled most of us, I think...
Based upon whose opinion? Clearly, you have less than no idea how little time I spend in this compared to what else I do (or how fast I might type such things) - but then who cares? and what does it matter?...
An honest admission at the very least - and one upon which some of us here might wish you would act accordingly rather more than you do...
Although neither is any of your business, I am nevertheless prepared to tell you that the answer to your first question is yes and that to your second is no. Frankly, so what?...

Well Alistair, I am aware of your's or anyone else's right to withhold information, but really, who's case is more believable, a person that shares his information openly, or a less candid individual who wants people to assume that what he says is true?

I clearly remember you writing about taking vacations? Please tell me.. what were you taking a vacation from? Your busy day at sitting in your chair, enjoying wine and forum talk, and all the while enjoying the thought that Sorabji was once an acquaintance of yours, and how fortunate you are for knowing him, whilst the less "sophisticated" people down there have to work their assess of just to sustain a living?

Well yes, children do matter, but only for those that wish to concern themselves with them. I am guessing that the all important alistair couldn't spare any of his time crafting witty statements on the forum to devote to family and like.

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Re: IS PIANISTIMO BACK???
Reply #53 on: July 31, 2008, 10:06:51 PM
Pianistimo comes back around the same time as me.

What a coincidence...

Why are we bothered about the activities of a very religious member of this forum? If she is back - she's back. If she isn't, that is her choice.

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Re: IS PIANISTIMO BACK???
Reply #54 on: July 31, 2008, 10:09:04 PM
i'm confused.  do you two know each other?  apparently, not very well.  typically, someone isn't as brash and bold as to ask directly where another person makes their money or how they spend it. it's sort of personal information.  why should personal information be anyone's business?  you share what you want to share. otherwise, you may set up your own identity theft crisis.  today, it's just not the best idea to go around telling people what you make, where you do business, etc.

mr. pmz310.  do we know each other?  *cringes  just wondering why the violence.  violence never solves anything - and frankly makes one look like they haven't a brain to speak.  i think it is mpz310 that needs a grilling.

ok.  you go on someone's thread that you don't even know - and start bombing it.  look women don't operate that way.  that typically avoid people they don't know and on the chance they do know them - they make their disagreements very apparent and get it over with.  either you like the person and stay with them or you agree to disagree and leave.  there's not so much violence with women.  when is the last time a woman threatened your life - for something you said?  they typically just give you the silent treatment.  that is a woman's 'bomb' if you must call it that.  how much threat is that.

internet allows people to be invisible to others - therefore - threatening others vicariously is much allowed in some sites.  however, there ARE ways to know.  for instance, a moderator should - typically - supervise a forum for inadvertent threatening behavior and at least have the courtesy to tell a threatened person to whom they are speaking.  you know - name address telephone. 

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Re: IS PIANISTIMO BACK???
Reply #55 on: July 31, 2008, 10:12:56 PM
Well there is the answer to the question:

Pianistimo is back.

:D

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Reply #56 on: July 31, 2008, 10:49:21 PM
Well Alistair, I am aware of your's or anyone else's right to withhold information, but really, who's case is more believable, a person that shares his information openly, or a less candid individual who wants people to assume that what he says is true?
You really are off the wall, are you not?! "Who's case?", you ask; but who ever said that there was a "case" to answer? As to "a less candid individual who wants people to assume that what he says is true", I must ask you "less" candid than what? Some people offer personal information whether or not they may have been asked for it; that's their prerogative. It happens not to be mine, as a matter of choice.

I clearly remember you writing about taking vacations? Please tell me.. what were you taking a vacation from? Your busy day at sitting in your chair, enjoying wine and forum talk, and all the while enjoying the thought that Sorabji was once an acquaintance of yours, and how fortunate you are for knowing him, whilst the less "sophisticated" people down there have to work their assess of just to sustain a living?
What is that supposed to mean? Let's take this apart, for what it may or more likely may not be worth. What I might of might not take a vacation from is none of your business. You have no idea how I spend my days, what work I do, how long I spend on that work, why I do it and all the rest. By "assess of" I assume you to mean "asses off" - but what makes you think that I don't work mine off? What has my acquaintance with Sorabji to do with how and for how long I work each day or what I work at? You really do seem to be making quite an exhibition of falling flat on your face and digging yourself in deeper, do you not?...

Well yes, children do matter, but only for those that wish to concern themselves with them. I am guessing that the all important alistair couldn't spare any of his time crafting witty statements on the forum to devote to family and like.
Of course children matter; without them, the future of our human race (I assume you to be at least a part-time member thereof) would be pretty parlous, would it not? People who may concern themselves with children are not necessarily those that wish to have them; again, although it's not any of your business, I happen to have a great respect for those who can raise children well and I believe that I may be rather more aware than some people that such a gift does not naturally fall to everyone. What I devote my time to and how I devote it is, once again, neither any of your business nor something of which you evidence the slightest knowledge, so I'd keep off such topics if I were you (which, rather fortunately, I am not). Finally, I should tell you that I do not know who this "all important alistair" is but I can confirm that he is no acquaintance of mine.

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Re: IS PIANISTIMO BACK???
Reply #57 on: August 01, 2008, 01:55:24 AM
What I might of might not take a vacation from
Wish spell check could understand sentences, I always to stuff like this  8)
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Re: IS PIANISTIMO BACK???
Reply #58 on: August 01, 2008, 02:18:45 AM
Wish spell check could understand sentences, I always to stuff like this  8)
The Irony!
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Re: IS PIANISTIMO BACK???
Reply #59 on: August 01, 2008, 03:07:40 AM
She is back? I thought I could smell something..... Ambrosia of course ;)
 "the deadly smell of the seal skins vexed us sore; but the goddess saved us; she brought ambrosia and put it under our nostrils"
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Re: IS PIANISTIMO BACK???
Reply #60 on: August 01, 2008, 03:08:55 AM
The Irony!
WOW!  That was really an accident!  ;D
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Re: IS PIANISTIMO BACK???
Reply #61 on: August 01, 2008, 05:02:36 AM

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Reply #62 on: August 01, 2008, 06:43:11 AM
You really are off the wall, are you not?! "Who's case?", you ask; but who ever said that there was a "case" to answer? As to "a less candid individual who wants people to assume that what he says is true", I must ask you "less" candid than what? Some people offer personal information whether or not they may have been asked for it; that's their prerogative. It happens not to be mine, as a matter of choice.
What is that supposed to mean? Let's take this apart, for what it may or more likely may not be worth. What I might of might not take a vacation from is none of your business. You have no idea how I spend my days, what work I do, how long I spend on that work, why I do it and all the rest. By "assess of" I assume you to mean "asses off" - but what makes you think that I don't work mine off? What has my acquaintance with Sorabji to do with how and for how long I work each day or what I work at? You really do seem to be making quite an exhibition of falling flat on your face and digging yourself in deeper, do you not?...
Of course children matter; without them, the future of our human race (I assume you to be at least a part-time member thereof) would be pretty parlous, would it not? People who may concern themselves with children are not necessarily those that wish to have them; again, although it's not any of your business, I happen to have a great respect for those who can raise children well and I believe that I may be rather more aware than some people that such a gift does not naturally fall to everyone. What I devote my time to and how I devote it is, once again, neither any of your business nor something of which you evidence the slightest knowledge, so I'd keep off such topics if I were you (which, rather fortunately, I am not). Finally, I should tell you that I do not know who this "all important alistair" is but I can confirm that he is no acquaintance of mine.

Best,

Alistair

Oh dear... Alistair, perhaps it is due to me not being succinct. It is very clear to me that you dodge my points. YOUR case. Your's did become so when I addressed it, and you kept on equivocating, or better, dodging. I happen to make my point that due to the large amount of time you seem to spend here, and the material on which you choose to write on is telling me that you aren't spending your time wisely, not that that is any of my business. Furthermore, I remember you speaking of taking vacations. My point persists. How could you be taking vacations if your life is a vacation. Now I may be of course wrong of course, but you keeping on telling me that you wish to not divulge any personal information isn't going to change my mind.

Why I don't think you work off your ass is stated above.

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Re: IS PIANISTIMO BACK???
Reply #63 on: August 01, 2008, 07:35:31 AM
Oh dear... Alistair, perhaps it is due to me not being succinct. It is very clear to me that you dodge my points.
If and when it appears that you actually have any, I might be tempted to consider whether or not to "dodge" them...

...YOUR case. Your's did become so when I addressed it, and you kept on equivocating, or better, dodging.
I am not the subject of this thread and, just like any other member here, I am entitled to write or not to write whatever I like here, subject to the rules of the forum.

I happen to make my point that due to the large amount of time you seem to spend here, and the material on which you choose to write on is telling me that you aren't spending your time wisely, not that that is any of my business.
It is as well that you recognise that how I spend my time is not your business; that said, you do not know how much time I spend on anything, including this forum, so your silence on that subject would be as welcome as it is appropriate. Your use of the word "wisely" has a certain piquant amusement factor, coming as it does from one whose wisdom seems to be at best severely compromised...

Furthermore, I remember you speaking of taking vacations. My point persists. How could you be taking vacations if your life is a vacation. Now I may be of course wrong of course,
Of course - and, once again, it is good to see you recognising this fact, of course...

but you keeping on telling me that you wish to not divulge any personal information isn't going to change my mind.
Sorabji used to say that the best thing about changing one's mind is having a mind to change in the first place; I'd give some consideration to that if I were you. In the meantime, I'll "divulge" what I choose and even then only when it might seem appropriate to do so. Apart from any other consideration, I see less than no point in boring people with things that they haven't even asked about (and, in so saying, I should add that you are only one member of this forum, not its representative on earth).

Why I don't think you work off your ass is stated above.
Why I couldn't care less what you might or might not think (assuming you even to be capable of rational thought) doesn't even need to be stated anywhere. You have no idea what I do or how long it takes me to do it, nor need you have any such idea; even you yourself recognise that it's none of your business.

Now - time to return to the topic, if anyone has anything more to say on it...

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Alistair
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Re: IS PIANISTIMO BACK???
Reply #64 on: August 01, 2008, 07:36:46 AM
More
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Re: IS PIANISTIMO BACK???
Reply #65 on: August 01, 2008, 07:39:10 AM
yeah..!!!
when dignity, love, and joy meet...

OMG, it's spa time!!! ;D

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Reply #66 on: August 01, 2008, 07:43:48 AM
yeah..!!!
Read the last couple lines of Hinton's post.
For us musicians, the music of Beethoven is the pillar of fire and cloud of mist which guided the Israelites through the desert.  (Roughly quoted, Franz Liszt.)

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Reply #67 on: August 01, 2008, 07:46:09 AM
Read the last couple lines of Hinton's post.
There's no relation between my "yeah!" and the last posts...  ;D dunno want to type what...
when dignity, love, and joy meet...

OMG, it's spa time!!! ;D

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Reply #68 on: August 01, 2008, 08:59:31 AM
Who could ask or anything more?...

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Reply #69 on: August 01, 2008, 11:21:20 AM
you do not know how much time I spend on anything, including this forum,
Well actually, how much time you've spent on this forum is listed under your profile. But I'll keep out of  this odd, pointless arguement.
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Reply #70 on: August 01, 2008, 11:23:42 AM
i think debussy symbolism was making up for all those jabs ahinton gave me about pole dancing etc.  i really only have time for rational activities nowdays.  and, as i told a hinton - WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CHOPIN AND POLISH COMPOSERS - the only pole i have is the radon gas pole in the basement.  anyways, i do appreciate those who come to my rescue - so don't think it was totally 'for naught.'  i'll just keep you in mind should ahinton start the 'charge' again.

anyways - i've seen some of alistair's compositions and think that 'wow, if he can do that - why is he single?'  typically the first thing people think is 'thye must be gay.'  but, that's not true in alistair's case.  he is probably very straight and just hasn't found the right woman yet.  somebody to appreciate his fine sense of living and retire off his already composed works?  just an idea.

ambrosia goddess.  that's the first time i ever had that compliment (or is it?) ambrosia makes me think of fruit salad.  mixed up.  ambrosia goddess = mixed up.  well ok.  perhaps a little.  but, i've not changed my mind about anything really - i pretty much stick to what i believe.  if it comes out wrong - i don't mean it to.  for instance, i don't think insulting people is right -a nd i take too many liberties with thal.  from now on - i'll only say nice things about him.  at least i've warned mukubella.

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Reply #71 on: August 01, 2008, 01:26:07 PM
Well actually, how much time you've spent on this forum is listed under your profile.
That's as may be, but the amount of time that I've actually spent in writing posts on it is quite another matter and not identified by that or any other available statistic.

But I'll keep out of this odd, pointless arguement.
A very wise and sensible decision, if I may say so; it isn't even an argument as such, as far as I can tell - it seems merely to be one member making noisily persistent but ultimately vague and empty off-topic pronouncements on a matter of which he has little knowledge and which is no concern of his in the first place.

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Reply #72 on: August 01, 2008, 01:38:04 PM
i think debussy symbolism was making up for all those jabs ahinton gave me about pole dancing etc.
If that is really the case, he made quite a point of avoiding saying so...

i really only have time for rational activities nowdays.
So you mean that you used to do pole dancing but now no longer do so as you are concentrating only on rational activities (of which one might presume you to consider pole dancing not to be one)? No, of course not; I'm just joking, not jibing (as I imagine is patently obvious).

and, as i told a hinton - WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CHOPIN AND POLISH COMPOSERS - the only pole i have is the radon gas pole in the basement.  anyways, i do appreciate those who come to my rescue - so don't think it was totally 'for naught.'  i'll just keep you in mind should ahinton start the 'charge' again.
Whatever I may have written about you and pole dancing, I've never actually "charged" you with anything (I am in any case a composer, not a prosecutor); however, if you need rescuing from  the potential effects of radon (something which is an issue in the extreme south west of England as well), maybe the best way is to move to a less affected area...

anyways - i've seen some of alistair's compositions and think that 'wow, if he can do that - why is he single?'  typically the first thing people think is 'thye must be gay.'  but, that's not true in alistair's case.  he is probably very straight and just hasn't found the right woman yet.  somebody to appreciate his fine sense of living and retire off his already composed works?  just an idea.
It sounds like a whole raft of ideas to me! Why anyone that doesn't know me and has never met me should leap to the conclusion that I'm gay, or straight, or celibate, or bisexual at all, let alone on the strength of my compositions alone, is beyond me. If anyone could ever afford to retire off my already composed works, that person would be a very pleasantly surprised me! (ecept that I wouldn't actually retire). As I've indicated previously, I'm not about to discuss my income sources or amounts but I will say that deriving a decent and reliable income from composition is not exactly the easiest thing in the world for most people to do!

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Re: IS PIANISTIMO BACK???
Reply #73 on: August 02, 2008, 12:59:15 AM
Pianistimo comes back around the same time as me.

I'm blessed. :)

well not really... pmz came back a few days ago also...
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Reply #74 on: August 02, 2008, 08:32:06 AM
Alistair, you entirely missed my point. In order to save you from the now recurring boredom of rereading all that I wrote, I will state your case, and yes, it is your case now, again. I claim, that you do nothing all day besides sitting at this forum and sipping wine. I am of course not being completely serious, as a sophisticated individual such as yourself isn't bound to these activities. Based on what I see, I would probably say that you do alot of other important activities that should grant you unlimited income. You say that I have no way of knowing otherwise because I do not have access to your life info. I say, that unless you prove to me otherwise, I will keep on thinking so.

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Reply #75 on: August 02, 2008, 08:35:52 AM
Alistair, you entirely missed my point. In order to save you from the now recurring boredom of rereading all that I wrote, I will state your case, and yes, it is your case now, again. I claim, that you do nothing all day besides sitting at this forum and sipping wine. I am of course not being completely serious, as a sophisticated individual such as yourself isn't bound to these activities. Based on what I see, I would probably say that you do alot of other important activities that should grant you unlimited income. You say that I have no way of knowing otherwise because I do not have access to your life info. I say, that unless you prove to me otherwise, I will keep on thinking so.
In short.

You didn't have a point., so I didn't miss one.

You don't have to save me from that boredom; I wasn;t going to reread your stuff anyway.

"My case" cannot be your claim; they are by definition different.

I do not have to prove or disprove anything to you.

You may think what you like; that is your prerogative, as it is mine not to care less unless you have something actually interesting to say.

Best,

Alistair
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