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Offline lisztisforkids

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Finally a religion I can respect
on: August 01, 2008, 07:54:13 PM
Its just so Beautiful......


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Re: Finally a religion I can respect
Reply #1 on: August 02, 2008, 04:08:35 AM
Its just so Beautiful......


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ada?  Are you around?  This is your Church, is it not?
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Re: Finally a religion I can respect
Reply #2 on: August 02, 2008, 04:14:04 AM
"Be blessed by his noodly appendages"
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Re: Finally a religion I can respect
Reply #3 on: August 02, 2008, 06:10:58 AM
Its just so Beautiful......


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That was introduced a while ago here by ada  ;D

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Re: Finally a religion I can respect
Reply #4 on: August 02, 2008, 06:57:27 AM
I agree that the spaghetti is beautiful. But I would much prefer to eat it than worship.  :D
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Re: Finally a religion I can respect
Reply #5 on: August 02, 2008, 06:59:33 AM
respect?  

how about ms. mazar's findings in israel that prove various people in the bible existed.  last year or so she found some important tombs - one of which was herod the great's.  this year she has recently found the official seal of gedaliah - which was a tormentor of the prophet jeremiah.

so many people and places mentioned in the bible have been proved true to name and location.  here is one site that mentions a bit about the recent finding:
https://ferrelljenkins.wordpress.com/

i believe God calls respect to Himself by what He does.  jeremiah was speaking the words that he was given about the prophecied downfall of israel and when pashur the priest heard them - he had the prophet beaten, and put in stocks.  the very next day, however, (pashur probably couldn't sleep) - pashur released jeremiah.  but, not before jeremiah utterred a curse on pashur and proclaimed that he also would die in babylon because he prophecied falsely to his friends.  jeremah 20:6

this is interesting to me because there are many religions, but the one that is true will last forever.  whenever the Lord decrees something - it happens.  both the captivity and release of israel is prophecied.  but, not everyone believes that israel as a whole was scatterred.  judah was one tribe of israel. 

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Re: Finally a religion I can respect
Reply #6 on: August 02, 2008, 07:11:46 AM
ps God can also cause respect by maintaining a distance from those who call on Him too late.  why wait?  it's just crazy to know there is help and to walk the other direction.  but, that is why there is free choice.  however, if you know that someone is strong and powerful - why reject them?  jeremiah said, in jer. 20:11 - 'the Lord is with me like a dread champion.'  That has to be one of my favorite verses because often people think that humans have the last say.
 
jer.23:29 'is not My word like a fire? declares the Lord, 'and like a hammer which shatters rock... therefore behold, I am against the prophets  (pashur was a 'prophet'), declares the Lord, 'who steal My words from EACH OTHER.  behold, I am against the prophets, declares the Lord, who use their tongues and declare, 'The Lord declares....'

here God is literally saying - prophet, shmofet... - if a man is a prophet then He will speak only what God has given Him to say.  No more.  no less.  And, those words will come true.  Every word of God is given for reproof and instruction in righteousness. if you are in a religion that only speaks 'soft words' - what good is that when the world around us is crumbling?  God uses a bullhorn and says it like it is.  this world is about to end (the way it is now) because people have forgotten the law of God.  Law is what a society is supposed to be based upon.  if it protects the criminal instead of the victim - what good is that?

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Re: Finally a religion I can respect
Reply #7 on: August 02, 2008, 07:33:17 AM
one last thing.  jer. 23:20 says 'in the last days you will clearly understand it....'  understand what?  'the anger of the Lord will not turn back until He has performed and carried out the purposes of His heart; in the last days you will clearly understand it....'

so...what is He angry about?  Maybe that people don't seek Him or search for real truth.  they prefer a lie.  it's nicer.  more palatable.  but, it's not going to save them.  '...i did not send these prophets, but they ran.  i did not speak to them, but they prophecied.  but if they had stood in My council, then they would have declared My words to My people, and would have turned them back from their evil way and from the evil of their deeds.'

now, typically people say - when they hear a prophet 'get off your high horse' - but the thing is that prophets are no different from normal people.  they have problems, too - they are human.  jonah was sent to minister to ninevah and he had problems.  he didn't want to see the city saved.  he'd rather have seen in destroyed.  the reason God sends prophets is to warn people so that they might change and be saved from destruction. 

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Re: Finally a religion I can respect
Reply #8 on: August 02, 2008, 08:32:47 AM
PS = Pianistimo Susan.

"One last thing"? I'll believe that when I have the evidence to support it. That reminds me of Peter Falk / Colombo, actually...

Ah, well...

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Reply #9 on: August 02, 2008, 08:46:12 AM
RAmen, brothers and sisters!
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Re: Finally a religion I can respect
Reply #10 on: August 02, 2008, 02:06:37 PM
respect?  

how about ms. mazar's findings in israel that prove various people in the bible existed.  last year or so she found some important tombs - one of which was herod the great's.  this year she has recently found the official seal of gedaliah - which was a tormentor of the prophet jeremiah.

so many people and places mentioned in the bible have been proved true to name and location.  here is one site that mentions a bit about the recent finding:
https://ferrelljenkins.wordpress.com/

i believe God calls respect to Himself by what He does.  jeremiah was speaking the words that he was given about the prophecied downfall of israel and when pashur the priest heard them - he had the prophet beaten, and put in stocks.  the very next day, however, (pashur probably couldn't sleep) - pashur released jeremiah.  but, not before jeremiah utterred a curse on pashur and proclaimed that he also would die in babylon because he prophecied falsely to his friends.  jeremah 20:6

this is interesting to me because there are many religions, but the one that is true will last forever.  whenever the Lord decrees something - it happens.  both the captivity and release of israel is prophecied.  but, not everyone believes that israel as a whole was scatterred.  judah was one tribe of israel. 

What has this horsecrap and your following 2 posts of mindless drivel got to do with this thread?

Again you infest threads with your pathetic religious rantings.

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Re: Finally a religion I can respect
Reply #11 on: August 02, 2008, 03:41:54 PM
What has this horsecrap and your following 2 posts of mindless drivel got to do with this thread?

Again you infest threads with your pathetic religious rantings.

Thal

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Re: Finally a religion I can respect
Reply #12 on: August 02, 2008, 04:23:19 PM
You are right, i should.

It is one of my weaknesses.

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Re: Finally a religion I can respect
Reply #13 on: August 02, 2008, 04:30:17 PM
What has this horsecrap and your following 2 posts of mindless drivel got to do with this thread?

Again you infest threads with your pathetic religious rantings.

Thal


Pianistimo,

In these most beautifully chosen words of his, Thal probably meant to say you treated this thread too seriously.

This so-called "religion" is just a lame joke. *eats the spaghetti*
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Reply #14 on: August 02, 2008, 06:34:37 PM

This so-called "religion" is just a lame joke.

It does not matter to her.

Any excuse whatsoever and she will start another retarded Gospel.

She has enough threads to spit her poison.

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Re: Finally a religion I can respect
Reply #15 on: August 02, 2008, 07:04:50 PM
FSM is an ingenious exposure of the hypocrisy and lunacy of Intelligent Design.

God Bless FSM.
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Reply #16 on: August 02, 2008, 07:42:57 PM
ok.  why are the stars in CONSTELLATIONS.  why are our bodies in PROPORTION.  why do even the smallest things have dna which allows them to reproduce EXACTLY the same thing? 

this isn't chaos.  it's making intelligently designed things out of chaos.

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Reply #17 on: August 02, 2008, 07:45:05 PM
why are our bodies in PROPORTION. 

Well yours ain't.

Why don't you find an appropriate thread for your bullshit?

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Reply #18 on: August 02, 2008, 07:49:08 PM
ok.  why are the stars in CONSTELLATIONS.  why are our bodies in PROPORTION.  why do even the smallest things have dna which allows them to reproduce EXACTLY the same thing? 

this isn't chaos.  it's making intelligently designed things out of chaos.

Supernatural explanations appeal to you.  Ironically, these things have been explained scientifically but you either do not understand or have not attempted to understand the explanations. In short, you have an educational deficiency.
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Reply #19 on: August 02, 2008, 07:51:10 PM
you have an educational deficiency.

Her feeble mind is already made up.

She cannot learn.

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Re: Finally a religion I can respect
Reply #20 on: August 02, 2008, 07:54:34 PM
Interestingly, her ignorance itself may have a rational explanation.

The penalty for not believing Christ is Lord is eternal damnation.  The penalty for believing is eternal salvation. 

Even if P(Christ is Lord) = 0, the penalty for believing is nothing except having to live a life of ignorance.  It's Pascal's wager; expected negative value of losing out (hell) isn't worth it for the believer.

Course we unbelievers have the bragging rights that come with being emancipated form ignorance and superstition.
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Reply #21 on: August 02, 2008, 07:57:35 PM
I think you have got something there.

Revelead at last, the "Pianistimo Ignorance Theorem"

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Reply #22 on: August 02, 2008, 07:57:56 PM
New topic!  ;D
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Reply #23 on: August 02, 2008, 07:59:40 PM
We should call it "PIT" for short.
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Reply #24 on: August 02, 2008, 08:06:04 PM
are you both saying you have no limitations and no weaknesses?  as i understand it, religion (or, just belief) allows one to accept that they only know so much.  that they need help.  you can joke about this help - but i see it as very real.  otherwise JC wouldn't have expressed a desire to hear our prayers when he gave us the example of the Lord's prayer.  'lead us not into temptation...but deliver us from evil....'  now what scientist is going to bring morality into the equation?  to attempt to determine HOW people should live together in peace?  only God can solve those kinds of problems - and yet He deals with the entire creation as a whole.  If God did not sustain the planet even for a milli-billi-silli- second... things would fall back into chaos.

ps thal - how would you know about my proportions if we have never met?  and, why would you care.  i don't understand how this is relevant to the conversation.  and, on top of that 'look who's calling the kettle black?' 

top physicists have wondered what holds the universe together.  now they have a name for it - but most admit it is God.  ask anyone who holds a position of knowing some of what actually goes on in the universe and then can dream to say they understand it ALL.

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Reply #25 on: August 02, 2008, 08:09:16 PM
Crawl back under your stone retard.
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Reply #26 on: August 02, 2008, 08:12:19 PM
but most admit it is God. 

As if you have ever spoken to any.
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Reply #27 on: August 02, 2008, 08:12:41 PM
why does religion (faith) bother you at all?  why do you feel the need to harass those that believe?  does it mean that you have a little corner of your brain where you have doubts that what you believe now covers everything?  i mean - people die.  then what are the 'explainations?'  who has gone beyond death?  JC can tell you what is after this.

my husband majored in physics.  he is a christian.  there are many educated physicists who write articles on many topics and yet there is always a portion of the article that says 'we don't understand how such and such works, yet .....'

what if God, in His power - will allow people more knowledge of the universe after the ressurrection.  those things that are so hard to understand now - might be easier to comprehend with a new 'body' and way of being.  our minds would be more powerful if the Holy Spirit has the power to DO whatever God speaks.  He speaks the Word and it is done.

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Reply #28 on: August 02, 2008, 08:16:06 PM
why does religion (faith) bother you at all?  

Religion does not bother me. YOU DO.

Now for Christs sake SHUT UP.

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Reply #29 on: August 02, 2008, 08:18:56 PM
all you have to do is switch threads if you don't want to discuss further.  i dont' see why you insist on wanting anyone to 'shut up.'  there is freedom for expression - and when it is squished obviously it is because there is some innate fear exposed.

why don't you start a thread on things that interest you.  you know - about banjos or something.

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Reply #30 on: August 02, 2008, 08:21:15 PM
You have more than enough threads already full of your deluded filth.

Why don't you use them instead of ruining this one?

Even better, why don't you piss off for another 7 months?

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Reply #31 on: August 02, 2008, 08:23:23 PM
why don't you start a thread on things that interest you.  you know - about banjos or something.

Because you would infest it with your religious bacteria.
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Reply #32 on: August 02, 2008, 08:37:20 PM
banjos are completely secular in nature.  i've never seen any in church.

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Reply #33 on: August 02, 2008, 08:39:19 PM
POGO:

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Reply #34 on: August 02, 2008, 08:59:09 PM
i watched it twice and my mouth was open both times.  i don't think, however, pogo should attempt to start his own religion.  he doesn't have to say a word to convince people of his music.  he is really an amazing pianist.  i have nothing bad to say about him - only the piano's last note.  i didn't like the sound of it.  it sounded kinda flat.  is it impression or something of low low notes?  do they sound flat even when they aren't.  i like mean tunings.

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Reply #35 on: August 02, 2008, 09:01:22 PM
all embrace the power of pogo.
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Reply #36 on: August 02, 2008, 09:05:24 PM
what can he do besides play the piano?  can he dance?

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Reply #37 on: August 02, 2008, 09:07:22 PM
why do you feel the need to harass those that believe?

Why do you feel the need to harass those that believe in different of what you believe?

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Reply #38 on: August 02, 2008, 09:07:47 PM
He likes spaghetti, bicycle rides, play ping-pong, disco dance.
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Reply #39 on: August 02, 2008, 09:41:51 PM
i watched it twice and my mouth was open both times. 

Same as when you met wolfi.

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Reply #40 on: August 02, 2008, 09:43:55 PM
Why do you feel the need to harass those that believe in different of what you believe?

Most fanatics do this and in her deluded mind, she probably thinks she is "saving" us.

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Reply #41 on: August 02, 2008, 09:46:43 PM


Best Tchaikovsky 1st ever.

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Reply #42 on: August 03, 2008, 02:05:23 AM
Proportions of animals are caused by genetically programmed apoptosis rates.
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Reply #43 on: August 03, 2008, 03:21:53 PM


Best Tchaikovsky 1st ever.

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That was pretty funny.

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Reply #44 on: August 03, 2008, 03:22:56 PM
Same as when you met wolfi.

Thal

But this was freaking hilarious.

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Reply #45 on: August 03, 2008, 03:48:01 PM
I do my best to keep my friends on pianostreets amused ;D
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Reply #46 on: August 03, 2008, 04:32:35 PM
I do my best to keep my friends on pianostreets amused ;D

Thank you, you are truly funny.

I thought you were really mad at first, though.  :-X
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Reply #47 on: August 10, 2008, 02:44:51 AM
POGO:


Wow, he basically stretch the d-a' in the LH!  His hand must be huge! (resists urge to add joke....)
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