The Novice Classical Composer

[loonbohol]

I, A teen-ager has composed some classical piano pieces(5+)(Romantic or whatever)
And This is a serious question as how I am obsessively serious in becoming a known composer like Franz Liszt and Frederick Chopin.
I have composed some Etude's (not that hard of Chopin or Liszt) and  as a 15 year old. It is very difficult to give them copyright because I don't know how to make a copyright and I cannot upload them in public right away because they might claim that it is their composition and I cannot prove it that it is mine.

1.) !So could you teach me how to make a copyright or at least make me have a proof that I composed it.(I can wait for the age of 18 if you say so.)
COUNTRY:PHILIPPINES

2.)How could I know that my compositions are not coincidentially composed by another composer.(I won't let you listen to any of them since you will steal them using your sonic analyzing software and tell that it's your composition then I can't prove that I composed it.)

3.)Can you recommend a Music notation that I can have a hard printed copy of my composition.

4.)How can I make the audience believe that it is my composition.I can I make other physical proofs.

5.)How much will I spend.

6.)Which is better? To wait until 18 yrs. old or to reveal at this age.

TRIVIA:My compositions are at a difficulty near to Franz Liszt and they tend to emulate sounds like La Campanella.

Nobody wants me.

[jabbz]

If you are worried that they sound like someone else's compositions you're doing something really wrong.

[healdie]

well you have already said that they sound like another composers works, i don't know how well a composition in this style will sell, as if they sound like Chopin and Liszt then they will sound old fashioned, writing in a romantic style would be like writing a book in the style of shakespeare, it wouldn't be taken taken seriously.

you should try and write in keeping with modern trends and fashions and by modern i do not mean atonal, there is plenty of modern tonal works about.

but to answer your question one way to copyright your music is to post yourself a copy of the manuscript the day you have fiished it, do not open it as it will invalidate it, but there should be a date on the envolope, and if there is ever anydispute over the authenticity of your work then you can prove that you wrote it on that date. another way of copywriting your work is to deposite it in a bank vault this will also be dated by the bank.

but i would try and get your works published by a publisher so that they are availible in shops to buy but before you can do this i would recomend building up some prestige as a composer perform your works in public but put them on a set with well known audience attracters this will bring the public in and expose them to your music.

Films are another good way of getting your music heard, i mean like local video clubs to start off with this will also guve you valuble experiance in composition, because there is very little classical music music created now that does not have a visual purpose (films adverts plays) movies are the modern day operas and if Beethovwen was alive know you could bet you bottom doller he would be writing film scores

[loonbohol]

how am I supposed to publish them.
how am I supposed to find a movie director.
It would not be that easy on that age but what's with the envelope.
I can just write 2003 and that's all, then people will write in the envelope the date 2001 and that would go for the case.

I guess I have to start composing another song.
"maybe modern or experimental".

So if you mean films. it may refer to Incidental music.
One of the famous composers of incidental music is Kajiura Yuki.(my favorite).
So I will now start composing Incidental music.
well should I have to continue the proposed group of compositions which is a group of etudes, well I am planning to compose 12 but I am just done with 1 etude and the other 5 compositions have separate titles.

I live in a small city and I have no records of child prodigy and thank you for the reply.

I am not planning to publish them right away since I would send them out in bunches.

[jabbz]

They will not be published by a major house unless you do have a reputation (in the form of a CV). You will be expected to have been played several times in a professional context - in a major venue. You will also be expected to have an academic qualification. Some houses are more strict than others, but from the big guys like Boosey and Helne You can expect to have a list of performances as long as your arm.

And, I wouldn't worry about copyrighting, no one will want to steal your music, and certainly no one will make fraudulent claims by forging a copyright date.

Re: a director, you will probably not want to look for a director, but rather a production company.

[healdie]

when you send the envolpe to yourself the post office will stanp it with an official stamp with date on that cannot be forged, you do not have to date it yourself.

I would check out some of the incidental music from Shostakovich especially from the Gadfly (the romance is very famous) also John Williams is a modern film composer and has produced many great very classical scores including star wars, jaws, harry potter and Schindlers List

also if you have a local small thearte company they may be willing to have a local composer write some music for them it will be good experiance and exposure for you i would also look at studying composition at a local conservitory as they will include alot of contacts and agian have your works performed

[daro]

1.) !So could you teach me how to make a copyright or at least make me have a proof that I composed it.

Generally speaking,  a work is copyrighted automatically as soon as it's "fixed", such as by being written down or recorded. In the U.S., a copyright is legally protected by registering the work with the Library of Congress; I would expect that there is a similar government agency in the Philippines that would handle the same function. Registering can be expensive, so you can weigh that against what you think is the real risk of someone stealing your work. However, in the U.S. at least, a court won't even hear a copyright dispute unless and until the work has been formally registered.

At the time when you get around to publishing your pieces, the issue of registration becomes a lot more important, because it's usually needed to protect the interests of the publisher (whether that's you yourself or another company), as well as anyone they might do business with, such as a studio wanting to license your work for a film.

(Also, the envelope trick won't work, at least in the U.S. All it proves is that you have an envelope; it could have been opened and resealed at any time by anybody. A judge might not appreciate this kind of stunt since he'd expect you to know that there's a proper way to protect your rights.

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[loonbohol]

Then it is decided that I shall decide to wait for the age of 18.
I heard of that conservatory of music.
so maybe I can start there and I also heard of an independent film contest or minor movie every year in the Philippines.

now I know that being a composer is harder than I expected but composing a song is easier than I expected.

Since I have no reputation in piano at all(not even my friends,who studied with a piano teacher for more years whose(refer to my friends) most difficult piece they everplayed was Level 6 know that I conquered Level 9.)

That is why I started learning La Campanella and hoping that Uploading it on Youtube will make me at least have a reputation but I have a problem uploading them.<see Etudes and Performance forum at miscellaneous>.

Do you think Youtube is the answer.

[jabbz]

Youtube is NOT the answer. Winning the Tchaikovsky is the answer. But Composers and pianists are two very different creatures now. There are no composers that I know of who regularly perform their own music any more. The only one I can think of is Finnissy, and that's because he IS a concert pianist to begin with.

[healdie]

Shostakovich was a very talented pianist but when he was young he was told to decied if he wanted to be a pianist or composer, the two are now so specialised that it is very hard to be master both.

Also the envolope trick works here in the UK because it is very easy to tell if an envolpe had been opend if it is sealed (cause of the tear) but i wouldn't worry too much about copywriting your work as it should sound like you and no one else

[db05]

Then it is decided that I shall decide to wait for the age of 18.
I heard of that conservatory of music.
so maybe I can start there and I also heard of an independent film contest or minor movie every year in the Philippines.

...

Do you think Youtube is the answer.

I think a good film is better than a youtube video of your playing. Playing is different than composing. If you want a movie director, may I suggest you check with independent filmmakers around your area? Am Filipino, too, where do you live?

[loonbohol]

Really your a psychic. Yes, my compositions are Franz Liszt Hard but I have no time mastering them. I just visualize them using my mind or Anvil studio^tm.

But It gives me an Idea.
I am good at both. It only took me a week to master one of Chopin's hardest piece which is Aeolian Harp (Etude Op.25 No.1).<I hade played 6 of Chopin's Etude and still what I partly mastered Chopin>

The only reason why I compose songs is that the music of Japan overwhelmed me.
THe melody,the harmony,the execution of their Incidental music overwhelmed me,they are perfect. The music of Japan mastered me (not the other way around).

[healdie]

could you upload them to the forum? i would be quite interested in hearing what you have written

[loonbohol]

could you upload them to the forum? i would be quite interested in hearing what you have written

I don't know how to upload files in the forum.Maybe a E-mail to your E-mail adress can. Can you tell me your E-mail adress.
Interested HUH . I don't want to upload them so that they would be stolen
Anyway, For you to believe... I will let one of my compositions to be stolen away but not my recent
So I composed a new one (Title:"Impromptu for Healdie") and I am half-way on it and just only 2 days
Sure sometime this month.

I am fast to compose but the most difficult part is that making a musical notation

[popdog]

I don't think anyone here intends on stealing your competitions....

[loonbohol]

Here is a Short Prelude composition for you to believe. I will risk this.
Specially Dedicated to Healdie.



Listen to the MIDI file and Please rate It from 1 to 5.

[jabbz]

Well, you need to study, quite a bit. Your chords were in a very akward closed position, no sense of voicing or harmonic rhythmic. The triadic broken chord section wasn't really doing it for me. The next section really didn't seem to flow, the bass had no sense of direction. The real thing is, people don't write music like this anymore. For example, no point trying to sound like Liszt, because it has been done, and you're not going to be able to do it as well as he did. Find your own music, and your own style.

Now please, don't take this as an attack on you, because it's not. I used to be the same, and my composition teacher told it to me straight - it saved me alot of time messing around.

On a plus note, I actually liked the 'feel' of the piece. I liked the idea behind it, and I think you could work with it, but free it up. Have you done figured bass?

[healdie]

Here is a Short Prelude composition for you to believe. I will risk this.
Specially Dedicated to Healdie.



Listen to the MIDI file and Please rate It from 1 to 5.

obviously i am flattered that you have dedicated this piece to me 


also i do not think you have to risk other people stealing your composition, i do not think people will try and intentionally steal your work,

there are obviously only so many combinations of notes so similar sounding pieces are inevitable but i would not worry about people stealing your work

if am to give any critism it would appear that you do need to find your own musical voice as jabbz said i woul no try to sound like another composerbut saying this finding your own sound only comes with practice and experiance

again as Jabbz said i did like the feel and initial ideas behind the piece maybe the begining chords could be voiced diffently ( i will not say better) but overall i would say a good start on a impromtu

keep going 

[shinerl]

Well, you need to study, quite a bit. Your chords were in a very akward closed position, no sense of voicing or harmonic rhythmic. The triadic broken chord section wasn't really doing it for me. The next section really didn't seem to flow, the bass had no sense of direction. The real thing is, people don't write music like this anymore. For example, no point trying to sound like Liszt, because it has been done, and you're not going to be able to do it as well as he did. Find your own music, and your own style.

Now please, don't take this as an attack on you, because it's not. I used to be the same, and my composition teacher told it to me straight - it saved me alot of time messing around.

On a plus note, I actually liked the 'feel' of the piece. I liked the idea behind it, and I think you could work with it, but free it up. Have you done figured bass?

No Way! The short Prelude Impromptu is very ELECTRIFYING. ;)5 star
And shockingly by a 15 year old.
As if you are the reincarnation of Frederick Chopin.
Though it is short. I can sense It's whimsical character.

I can say that Jabbz saying is a little bit not true(No offense for Jabbz). 
It seems that you did it on purpose.
The purpose is that the strange notes that are given are make to sound whimsical and mysterious like a ghostly appearance.

In short it would sound like the composition of Franz Liszt "Transcendental Etude 5" which is Feux Follet.

As for the Impromptu. It is impulsive.    It's Flowing like a Ghost. It's mysterious like a Ghost.   

  Since you named it as a Prelude Impromptu for Healdie. 

It is really a Prelude. It is a very good start. And It catches your attention

Since I have many things to say and since A picture is worth a thousand words.
This is my description of your Impromptu.

[Kassaa]

No Way! The short Prelude Impromptu is very ELECTRIFYING. ;)5 star
And shockingly by a 15 year old.
As if you are the reincarnation of Frederick Chopin.
Though it is short. I can sense It's whimsical character.

I can say that Jabbz saying is a little bit not true(No offense for Jabbz). 
It seems that you did it on purpose.
The purpose is that the strange notes that are given are make to sound whimsical and mysterious like a ghostly appearance.

In short it would sound like the composition of Franz Liszt "Transcendental Etude 5" which is Feux Follet.

As for the Impromptu. It is impulsive.    It's Flowing like a Ghost. It's mysterious like a Ghost.   

  Since you named it as a Prelude Impromptu for Healdie. 

It is really a Prelude. It is a very good start. And It catches your attention

Since I have many things to say and since A picture is worth a thousand words.
This is my description of your Impromptu.

this is my description of your post:

[loonbohol]

Nice Reply.

Why can't I be a good composer like Chopin. 
If you would ask for the music notation I personally have a Hard time making one

And It took me 3 days to compose the Impromptu for Healdie that is Why it was not that good as Chopin or Liszt.

I will make another free Internet Performance and post it her and It will be more than 3 minutes and next 2 to 5 weeks.
I will post a new topic but It needs a demanding answer so I would place it up so that you would reply.


The title would be "AH FUHRER RUE" (a noctune but energetic).

I want you to continue your reply. PLEASE

[frank_48]

Why can't I be a good composer like Chopin. 

Because you are Not Chopin.

[healdie]

Because you are Not Chopin.

I believe loonbohol said "like" Chopin he didn't say he thought he was Chopin

[jabbz]

You would have to BE Chopin, to compose like him, or something like that.

[loonbohol]

No Way! The short Prelude Impromptu is very ELECTRIFYING. ;)5 star
And shockingly by a 15 year old.
As if you are the reincarnation of Frederick Chopin.
Though it is short. I can sense It's whimsical character

You would have to BE Chopin, to compose like him, or something like that.

Even If I am a Buddhist.I can not say if Chopin reincarnated or went to heaven.
Nobody can tell. I also wonder what body did Chopin have right now.

But above that how did composers became composers.
Production managers are costy. I was shocked that Yundi Lee must have paid the production manager large amounts of money just to perform.

And a certain japanese composer named Kajiura Yuki must have paid money.

Shostakovich must have paid money and the cost for the use of the auditorium.

[shinerl]

You really need to study the history and the story of how  modern this time composers even become composers.

Study the biography of Shostakovich and Yundi Lee.
and you have to be rich since production managers are very costy.

Independent film makers usually copies old music to be their incidental music rather than hiring a composer since composers are hard to find and composers are costy.

but do not despair.

"do not find a production manager.Let the production Manager find you instead".

They will pay you instead.

So plot how can you let the Production manager find you instead, It will be hard.
There is no point in becoming 15 year old composers since never in the history of piano that I heard of a 15 year old composer who can compose a good song named "Impromptu for Healdie". so I eat my words.

Either I will not believe that you composed the song
Or I will not believe that you are 15 years old.

[db05]

I did give my teacher a one-page etude once. Never heard about it since.  Pretty awkward since it's intended for 2 guitars but I transcribed it for piano. LOL. Don't ask.

I'm sure we'd have to compose next year. For our music course. If I find that there's something we can do about our compositions except throw them away, I'll fill you in.

I wish you were younger than 15, you could have studied in Yamaha and applied for Junior Original Concert. Other than that and the indie film thing, I have no more ideas.

Good luck.

[jabbz]

Steps to becoming a  composer:

1) Pretend you know nothing, and prepare to do the most basic and simple exercises.

2) Learn theory, from the grounds up, learn to construct and notate all scales, take theory until you have mastered it. And by that I mean being able to complete sections of score presented to you, be able to realize any figured bass put in front of you, quickly and efficiently. Make sure you are aware of Parallel 5ths, 8ves, and Unisons. Master transpositions and transposing instruments, learn the ranges and uses for all the important ones.

3) Start studying scores of masters, pay special attention to Bach, Mozart, Handel, Beethoven and Schoenberg - at least for starters.

4) Study under a successful composer.

5) Build a body of work, in lots of different styles, using lots of different techniques. Form your own voice.

6) Network and form contacts.

7) Sign up to a music society that will support and push your music, this will enable you to get more performances and commissions.

[loonbohol]

Sign up to a music society that will support and push your music, this will enable you to get more performances and commissions.

I cannot join the music local society because I have  insufficient certificates to present them that I studied piano such as diplomas,certificate or whatever.(they are lost).
Though I should have four Certificates.

(I studied for four years under a piano teacher and the rest were self studied.)

Music societies only accept good and experienced pianists and sadly the most difficult piano piece I ever performed is just Liszt's La Campanella or Chopin Etude Op.25 No.1.   (I cant decide which is the hardest).

But the people in the music society are Virtuoso pianists since they can play: Chopin Etude Op.10 No.3(Tristesse) , Fantasie Impromptu , Fur Elise , Chopin Etude Op.25 No.9(Butterfly) , Clair De Lune , Moonlight Sonata and they play music in the mass and they studied for more years than I am, and they are a lot Older than me.

And they had books and lectures pertaining Repertoire and music theory and they have a large collection of Pdf Files about Chopin,Liszt,Debussy etc.

I am currently studying Chopin Etude Op.25 No.11 so that I can train my right hand and as of September 21, I am still in the first page.

See my topic at the students Corner.

there is no other way to know music theory than Joining the music society of veteran Pianists. Wikipedia is too complicated

In Jabbz seven list to be a composer.
Only steps One and Five are possible.

[jabbz]

You really do need to make a distinction about being either a concert pianist or a professional composer. In this day and age you can only be one or the other.

Now, theory really, really is essential. Just Google for simple music theory articles, you'll find plenty of things to get started, and I'm sure you could find a teacher (where ever it is you live) if you look hard enough.

Re: Joining a society, thats something for the future once you've become semi-established.

[db05]

You didn't mention anything by Bach. That is difficult to study imo, but every pianist has to do it. 

You can learn theory (and piano) on your own, though it would be best with a teacher. There are books available on the subject. Search on this forum for more theory and tips.

[thierry13]

And It took me 3 days to compose the Impromptu for Healdie that is Why it was not that good as Chopin or Liszt.

Chopin and Liszt could have written something better without even stopping writing from beginning to end of the composition process, and this at younger ages than 15. Your ego obviously is bigger than reality. You have some talent but you didnt prove a single good thing about yourself in here, as a composer as well as a person.

[pinoypianist]

why not try going to a conservatory or university? there may be some poeple/professors there who could help you, and they also have a lot of connections with production managers etc. you're only 15 so there's time to prepare. We have some good schools here, there's the University of the Philippines and University of Santo Tomas.

[db05]

why not try going to a conservatory or university? there may be some poeple/professors there who could help you, and they also have a lot of connections with production managers etc. you're only 15 so there's time to prepare. We have some good schools here, there's the University of the Philippines and University of Santo Tomas.

Kuya, I don't think he lives in Manila or anywhere near it. That limits options.

[pinoypianist]

well if he can sacrifice a little to study manila, it would be good for him. just like what I did. I did not live in manila either but my family moved here because there are more good teachers here. And as ive said there a lot of people who can help him here.

[db05]

well if he can sacrifice a little to study manila, it would be good for him. just like what I did. I did not live in manila either but my family moved here because there are more good teachers here. And as ive said there a lot of people who can help him here.

That is A LOT of sacrifice. You're lucky your family can move with you. I wouldn't suggest the same though, the OPs family might not be able to do that, and I think he's too young to go it alone. I tried studying in UP and living in a dorm, and failed miserably. And it's not really far from home. 

And is it worth it? Teachers here are not that many, and there are too few good teachers. You'll either have to be really talented in the first place, or have connections and/or money.

This country isn't really good for musicians imo, and the best thing to do for anyone wanting be a serious musician is to study abroad. Even your teachers must have studied elsewhere, or with foreign teachers.

I think it is best if he can save a lot $$$ and study in a really good school or with a great teacher. Otherwise he'll wind up as another of this country's forgotten talents.

[shinerl]

I think it is best if he can save a lot $$$ and study in a really good school or with a great teacher. Otherwise he'll wind up as another of this country's forgotten talents.

If only loonbohol has a good academic performance.

   DOON ARAL KA HAPON, ROON TOKYO UNIBERSIDAD ,   AKO GALING TAGALOG.
  IKAW GUSTO MO HAPON MUSIKERO DI BA? IKAW GUSTO KAJIURA YUKI.

I spent time studying  Tagalog grammar and I understood it well.
Well this is what I can say with regards to your passion to music.

    " Knowledge starts with a spoonful of curiousity then it baloons to infinity"

You have proven yourself to be a good composer and you sent even a good composition to us called IMPROMPTU FOR HEALDIE for us to listen and I am posting it again for you Just download it down.

You wrote a good blog and you have proven yourself to be a good speaker.

[db05]

If only loonbohol has a good academic performance.

   DOON ARAL KA HAPON, ROON TOKYO UNIBERSIDAD ,   AKO GALING TAGALOG.
  IKAW GUSTO MO HAPON MUSIKERO DI BA? IKAW GUSTO KAJIURA YUKI.

*cough*
"Mag-aral ka doon sa Japan. Sa Tokyo University.
Gusto mo ang mga musikerong Hapon, 'di ba? Gusto mo si Kajiura Yuki."

Filipino students usually thrive abraod. People fail here not so much because they are untalented, but the education system is not that conducive to learning. I don't think academic performance is a problem as much as "maturity" and "social skills" are. I'm academically qualified but I'm postponing college since I don't feel like I have those. In other countries, there is more understanding for that sort of person who has a lot of talent in one area, but not in others. Plus they pardon your awkwardness for being a foreigner. 

Japan is a good idea. The music is interesting, and it is still in Asia. But it is most expensive... 

Chopin and Liszt could have written something better without even stopping writing from beginning to end of the composition process, and this at younger ages than 15. Your ego obviously is bigger than reality. You have some talent but you didnt prove a single good thing about yourself in here, as a composer as well as a person.

This is harsh, but I get the point. There is something about the OP that tells me he'll have a hard time dealing with reality.

loonbohol,
You should know this, it is not good to compare yourself with others. Keep on writing the compositions YOU like. If others like them, great. If they don't, whatever. Someone will discover your works sooner or later and appreciate them. Not everyone can be Chopin or Liszt. There are also the underrated composers that are brilliant nonetheless.

I hope I'm making sense here. It's getting too personal for me.

[pinoypianist]

That is A LOT of sacrifice. You're lucky your family can move with you. I wouldn't suggest the same though, the OPs family might not be able to do that, and I think he's too young to go it alone. I tried studying in UP and living in a dorm, and failed miserably. And it's not really far from home. 

And is it worth it? Teachers here are not that many, and there are too few good teachers. You'll either have to be really talented in the first place, or have connections and/or money.

This country isn't really good for musicians imo, and the best thing to do for anyone wanting be a serious musician is to study abroad. Even your teachers must have studied elsewhere, or with foreign teachers.

I think it is best if he can save a lot $$$ and study in a really good school or with a great teacher. Otherwise he'll wind up as another of this country's forgotten talents.

Yeah, but it's still different. because our composition department is pretty active today and most of them have international connections. They get to perform their works in public for free because the professors are the ones to look for your sponsors. I have some schoolmates who are sent abroad to study and some get to join international compo competitions. He's not going to get connections that fast if he doesn't look for them.

[loonbohol]

My grade average is 90+.

Maybe you are referring to a scholarship in Japan.
I can never be a scholar obviously since I will never be a valedictorian.

And pinoypianist;

What is the name of your composition department since I am also interested.
I may just go there to your organization this vacation.
Please listen to my composition which I Posted but ShineRL posted it again.

I can even say that I am neuther Chopin nor Liszt.

I am done studying music theory.

how many Filipinos are here

[avguste]

From a pianist to a composer here are my suggestions:

1.get a composition teacher and attend composition masterclasses,camps and such
2.find a pianist to perform/record your compositions and have them posted on sites such as this one,youtube and others.
3.finally,but not least,be patient.You are young(15 years old) and have the time.So take the time to study and grow as composer and pianist.

[pinoypianist]

And pinoypianist;

What is the name of your composition department since I am also interested.
I may just go there to your organization this vacation.

Its at the University of the Philippines, and you have to audition first before you can enter. if you want, you can try auditioning next year.  usually it's held in april and it consists of a theory and solfege exam and a talent exam where you must submit sample of your composition. Unfortunately, you can only audition in manila. I'd woudn't recommend summertime as everybody is on vacation.

[db05]

My grade average is 90+.

Maybe you are referring to a scholarship in Japan.
I can never be a scholar obviously since I will never be a valedictorian.

You don't have to be valedictorian to get scholarships. Although it greatly enhance your chances. I have to say that my friends studying abroad have more than intelligence. They have real guts.

btw, I think to get in Japan you need to learn Nihongo. And their Math is more advanced. Scratch that for now, it's too expensive to live there anyway.  

I think there are 4 of us. But I don't know if aewanko is living here.

pinoypianist is from the University of the Philippines.

[loonbohol]

Understood thank you. 

[loonbohol]

kindly continue.

[momopi]

Keep your compositions to yourself (you'll probably edit them as you grow older), listen to pinoypianist, jabbz and avguste, be humble, enter conservatory, know the inner workings of the art institution (it's politics, bureaucracy, gossip vine etc...), plan your way up slowly but surely, and be realistic.

Know how to change your tone (well, I cannot really judge since this is online) of speaking as not to offend other people, be brave - even if you'll be far from home when you get to the conservatory, just continue studying... it's totally normal to be away from the family.

Consult a patent lawyer if you really want to register your compositions. (This can really get expensive, you know)... People here are from different countries and patent laws definitely vary from country to country, so it's really useless to ask here. Plus, you cannot just publish your works. You have to have connections and a name to boot.

Oh well, I've said a lot. Good luck and hope you the best!

 
Momopi

[db05]

Thanks for posting the midi, shinerl.

I think I can make a critique now. *cough* Please remember that I am not good at composing myself. However I am very hard to please. *cough*

Your impromptu sounds like a crash between Fantaisie-Impromptu and Flight of the Bumblebee. It would sound impressive on a real piano. Can you play this? A midi doesn't do it justice. The intro and ending are nice. My complaints are the chords, which don't seem to last as long as I want to. Please make good use of stops/ rests. And definitely find something to fill in the gap between intro chords-middle and middle-end chords.

Your violin piece for shinerl, I don't know what to make of. Sorry. 
Wait, I think it calls for a 2nd voice. Like a Bach invention. It reminds me of my own composition, lol. 

[imbetter]

you're never going to earn a reputation unless your not scared that people will steal your ideas (which i guarantee you that they won't).

[loonbohol]

Thanks for posting the midi, shinerl.

I think I can make a critique now. *cough* Please remember that I am not good at composing myself. However I am very hard to please. *cough*

Your impromptu sounds like a crash between Fantaisie-Impromptu and Flight of the Bumblebee. It would sound impressive on a real piano. Can you play this? A midi doesn't do it justice. The intro and ending are nice. My complaints are the chords, which don't seem to last as long as I want to. Please make good use of stops/ rests. And definitely find something to fill in the gap between intro chords-middle and middle-end chords.

Your violin piece for shinerl, I don't know what to make of. Sorry. 
Wait, I think it calls for a 2nd voice. Like a Bach invention. It reminds me of my own composition, lol. 

What crash do you mean?

I just based it on stormy weather whining.
It is like a strong gale and breeze that blows the Pasig river and throwing the roofs on the air.
Then flooding the streets of Manila.            ( It has energy).

We'll the impromptu reminds me of Transcendental Etude no.2 (Fusees).

And the Violin pieces for ShineRL was just based on the Impromptu which I composed
(the other Impromptu).

I just do not have a scanner.

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What crash do you mean?

I just based it on stormy weather whining.
It is like a strong gale and breeze that blows the Pasig river and throwing the roofs on the air.
Then flooding the streets of Manila.            ( It has energy).

We'll the impromptu reminds me of Transcendental Etude no.2 (Fusees).

I don't know Transcedental Etude. But now it makes sense. The "crash" was the weather. Natural power. You can't get more impromptu than that. This is good a good concept, keep working on it.