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Offline kghayesh

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Clementi/Moszkowski.... Etudes in general
on: November 06, 2008, 03:29:14 PM
My teacher always tells me that I should play so much etudes, as much as I can to train all aspects of my basic technique. Now we are concentrating on Clementi Gradus ad Parnassum and Moszkowski's op.72 Etudes.
There are so much etudes, and also there are just so many etudes out there, varying from Chopin, Liszt, Rachmaninov, Bach, Clementi, Debussy.....etc.

SO... how should I tackle my technique lacking or my lack of etudes? I have like thousands of etudes !! but what should i do???

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Re: Clementi/Moszkowski.... Etudes in general
Reply #1 on: November 07, 2008, 10:10:55 AM
Just because there are thousands (probably more) of etudes out there doesn't mean you have to play them all, or narrow down every possible technical difficulty and overcome it.

Surely one might think, being a student and all, that there are tons of things to correct in order to become a professional or someone who has domain over their instrument. I'm sure that pianists such as Martha Argerich, Arrau, Rubinstein, etc...have all had to sit down and study pieces slowly and rigorously to overcome difficulties the same way a beginner sits down with their first etudes.

The same way that you study a clementi etude now is the same way you're going to have to study a chopin or a rachmaninoff etude.

Do etudes, ofcourse, but don't spend all your time doing them. There are tons more of technical, musical, and general aspects of piano playing in so many other types of works and not only etudes.

Personally, i believe that clementi's gradus ad parnassum is excellent, along with moszkowki's op 72. After that you could try Chopin's etudes, there alone with all 24 etudes you have for a while. Once you've mastered them all i'm sure that your pianistic wants and needs will be different

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Re: Clementi/Moszkowski.... Etudes in general
Reply #2 on: November 07, 2008, 11:40:59 PM
My teacher always tells me that I should play so much etudes, as much as I can to train all aspects of my basic technique. Now we are concentrating on Clementi Gradus ad Parnassum and Moszkowski's op.72 Etudes.
There are so much etudes, and also there are just so many etudes out there, varying from Chopin, Liszt, Rachmaninov, Bach, Clementi, Debussy.....etc.

SO... how should I tackle my technique lacking or my lack of etudes? I have like thousands of etudes !! but what should i do???

Start with things you can manage. It all depends on what you have already played and how you did it. Provide some basics. Tell us what etudes you already covered and what pieces you played. If I was to offer advice right now, I would say start with some basic Czerny, maybe op.299. I have done most of Moszkowski etudes so can say that they are a great help. Choose the ones that are closest to Czerny. Again, specify your abilities and repertoire.

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Re: Clementi/Moszkowski.... Etudes in general
Reply #3 on: November 09, 2008, 02:07:55 PM
I have played many etudes actually, all varying in level and difficulty. What I played are (from easy to difficult)

Czerny op.299 & 599
Clementi Gradus Ad Parnassum (just 3 etudes)
Moszkowski op.72 (1st 2 etudes.)
Scriabin (Etude no.12 op.8 in D# minor)
Chopin op.10 (no.9,10,12)

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Re: Clementi/Moszkowski.... Etudes in general
Reply #4 on: November 10, 2008, 02:23:14 AM
I have played many etudes actually, all varying in level and difficulty. What I played are (from easy to difficult)

Czerny op.299 & 599
Clementi Gradus Ad Parnassum (just 3 etudes)
Moszkowski op.72 (1st 2 etudes.)
Scriabin (Etude no.12 op.8 in D# minor)
Chopin op.10 (no.9,10,12)



I think its up to you to figure out what you need to work on. You have to find out difficulties and pick the right etudes. What do you think you need to work on?

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Re: Clementi/Moszkowski.... Etudes in general
Reply #5 on: November 10, 2008, 10:56:28 AM
mmm... let's see

- Thirds.... my thirds suck!
- passages with little, sparkling technique

I guess those two, highlight most of my technical problems.
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