In depth La Campanella fingering help

[milranduil]

I just recently registered so hello all 

I have recently decided to tackle La Campanella as it is a fantastic sounding piece. I checked out this site's music for it and I noticed it doesn't have fingerings in the places I need them most! So without further ado, here are some places I'm curious as to how people play parts:

Measure 23ish-27ish - The 32nds and following 16th - 32121 or 43231?

Measure 35/37 beats 4-6 - The alternating decending intervals from E to dble#F.

Measure 51-60 - Continuous triplets: I know it's 215...any tips for the wrist or fingers at faster tempos?

Measure 79-80 - Decending chromatic run: It doens't just go down but alternates on each note. Specific fingering/tips?

Measure 81-81 - Says alternating just 32 with one hand as you go up? Is this ideal or is it mostly personal preference? Other ways?

Measure 100 - Decending run: Alternate between hands or all on the right hand?

The 4 measures preceeding the end 3 measures: for the Left hand, the D# in the middle of the chord, what finger works best as 1 and 5 hop the octaves?

All right I think that's it for now. I'll post if I have more questions. Thanks for any and all help!

[lostinidlewonder]

Measure 23ish-27ish - The 32nds and following 16th - 32121 or 43231?

43231 is superior. This allows the thumb to be relaxed when you enter the 16ths. The 121 causes some tension where the 231 is more relaxed.

Measure 35/37 beats 4-6 - The alternating decending intervals from E to dble#F.

nb: key signature not applied.
(Eoct)(AD)(Coct)(EB)(BC)(E#G) | (AFx)(DA)(FxB)(DA)
(15)(24)(15)(25)(15)(23) | (13)(24)(35)(24)

the (15)(25) eludes most as natural, but it is the best.

Measure 51-60 - Continuous triplets: I know it's 215...any tips for the wrist or fingers at faster tempos?

Nothing constructive to say unless I saw you play. Keep your hands light. Try practicing just with the octaves, keeping the hand light not holding onto the notes, then add the 2nd and it should not interrupt the action of the octaves. The 2nd finger comes above the thumb and acts together with the thumb as one movement.

Measure 81-81 - Says alternating just 32 with one hand as you go up? Is this ideal or is it mostly personal preference? Other ways?

One hand? Use two, much easier.

Measure 100 - Decending run: Alternate between hands or all on the right hand?

Try both but I use one.

The 4 measures preceeding the end 3 measures: for the Left hand, the D# in the middle of the chord, what finger works best as 1 and 5 hop the octaves?

Use 3 until you play the end of the phrase with the G# play 2.

[milranduil]

Thanks very much I found this extremely helpful

One additional question after having some extensive trouble...In the measure preceding 100, you've got the running 32nds between octaves and the upper note. Most of them are easy to hit with 1454, but the ones like BBC#B can be a bit of a stretch with the pinky. Anything in particular to help with that? I've tried 1343 but that doesn't really work either. I'm thinking of just training my pinky to stay fully out stretched so I don't have to move the rest of my hand much to hit that 3rd note.

Also on the 51-60 triplets...I don't really have a problem keeping them light. It's more because my 2-5 isn't a very good stretch to just keep 1 and 2 together as I follow the line and just keep hitting the upper octave with pinky.

[tuufy]

the size of arm shouldnt be a problem , i played it with a small octavehand, you must practice the 2-1-5 light variation with all three notes in the group equal. Later ofc first in group is melody but it helps to practise totally equally.

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