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Shagdac

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How to play these chords?
on: May 30, 2004, 08:11:07 AM
The next part of the piece I'm working on has chords that have (I apologize, I'm not sure of the proper name for these or even if there is one) say 4 or notes for each chord. Each chord has one regular looking (size) note, and the other 3 or 4 notes of the same chord are very tiny. My instructor stated that I was to play them alltogether as a chord but then only hold down the note that is regular size, and lift my fingers from the others...that they are only played as you initially hit the chord. Hope I'm explaining this correctly.

I've never had chords like this, and was wondering if there was a special technique used in practicing them. The regular note of each chord is held for one count, and there are 2 lines of chords like this. What is the effect of playing them like this. I can't tell that much difference than playing them like they were ALL full size notes. What effect am I trying to get by doing this. The pedal is down the whole time, so I'm not sure why it is written like this. Any suggestions would be appreicated.

Thanks much,
S :)

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Re: How to play these chords?
Reply #1 on: May 30, 2004, 08:18:39 AM
I find, composers mark the notes like that to emphasize a melody.  Liszt does a lot of this, with smaller notes next to a main melody note.  Which piece is this?  I wouldnt worry about how long to hold down this or that.  Just make sure the regular sized note is heard more than the small notes.
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Shagdac

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Re: How to play these chords?
Reply #2 on: May 30, 2004, 08:22:52 AM
Thanks DonJuan, I appreciate it. I was concerned with having to raise all my other fingers up quickly enough, but if it's just mainly a matter of making the main melody note stand out more, that sure sounds easier that what I was making it!

Again, thanks so much!
S :)

Shagdac

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Re: How to play these chords?
Reply #3 on: May 30, 2004, 08:31:55 AM
Sorry, you asked which piece this was....it's called "The Union" by Gottschalk. These chords take place on the 6th page during the melody of "Star Spangled Banner". Interestingly enough, this was composed and dedicated to the union forces, before the Star Spangled Banner was delared our national anthem.

There is a 4 page lead in, then a rendition of Star Spangled Banner, then a variation of Hail Columbia, then it goes into part of Yankoo Doodle with the RH and Hail Columbia with the LH. In between all these parts are variations of the opening themes on pages 1-3. It's truly a uniquie type piece the way it incorporates these other melodies. If you ever get to hear it, or already have please let me know what you think!

Thanks again for your help.
S :)

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Re: How to play these chords?
Reply #4 on: May 30, 2004, 08:35:07 AM
yeah, it sounds like quite the piece.  I wish you luck! :)
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Re: How to play these chords?
Reply #5 on: July 01, 2005, 11:32:18 AM
I haven't seen your particular score, but this does occur quite regularly in other music

One use of this is to illustrate voicings, and which notes are the more important voice.  In the way you describe, the smaller notes are the same length and articulation as the large note, just the large note is more important or the melody note.  The small notes do not get played shorter. 

Small notes are also used to represent optional notes that may be omitted for case of facility, or editorial additions that the composer did not originally write. 

Look at Chopin Op.25/1 for an example of how little notes are used to illustrate melody from harmony, and voicings. 
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Re: How to play these chords?
Reply #6 on: July 01, 2005, 12:24:27 PM
I have an edition of Anna Magdalena (sp?) Notebook.

It is intended for younger players so it is simplified by making some notes small, indicating it is okay to omit them.  Or you can play them all if your skill allows. 

Could it be something like this?
Tim
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