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Offline borealis

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Beethoven Sonatas graded by movement
on: December 18, 2008, 06:24:44 PM
No, I haven't got a list like that; I'm looking for one, if one exists.

Beethoven's Sonatas are always graded according to the whole sonata, on every list I've been able to find.  What I'm looking for is a ranking of the individual movements.  For example, the RCM syllabus ranks the first movement of Op. 79 as a Grade 9 piece, but the second movement is Grade 7.

So is it possible for someone who has far more knowledge that I do about piano (which includes 90% of you people, I'm sure) to provide me with such a list?  Beethoven's Sonatas are on my 'to do' list, along with a few thousand other pieces of music.  I'd best get started. ;)
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Re: Beethoven Sonatas graded by movement
Reply #1 on: December 19, 2008, 08:10:23 AM
Read this thread.
At the third reply, Bernhard has made a progressive list of the 32 sonatas. Very useful if you want to learn them all.

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,2748.msg23723.html#msg23723

Have you played any of them ?

Good luck !

Offline borealis

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Re: Beethoven Sonatas graded by movement
Reply #2 on: December 19, 2008, 11:04:01 AM
Yes, I've seen that list.  What I'm hoping for is a breakdown of the difficulties of all 101 movements.  I might be asking for more that I can get, but it's worth asking for.

I haven't played any of his Sonatas yet.  I'm going to be working on Op. 2, No. 1 for my Grade 10 exam this year, as well as his easier sonatas (Op. 49, 79).
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Offline allemande

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Re: Beethoven Sonatas graded by movement
Reply #3 on: December 19, 2008, 04:31:35 PM
Oh man...

That's quite the task to grade all individual movements on all the sonatas.

It is true what you say for example that a certain movement may be more demanding (or on a different RCM grade level) as another movement, but assuming from your comments (let me know if I'm wrong this is just an assumption) i think you are at a level in which all the sonatas, easiest or hardest, are going to be technically and musically challenging.

I wouldn't worry too much about a certain movement being easier or harder than the rest, rather i'd worry about overcoming the difficulties that each sonata (or movement) presents in order to advance in a progressive manner and really learn something from that sonata (or movement).

Does this make sense?

Anyway, At the conservatory where I study the first few of the sonatas are graded in this manner..

3rd year
op. 49

4th year
op. 79

5th year
op. 10/1
op. 10/2
op. 14/1
op. 14/2

6th year
op. 2/1
op. 2/2
op. 7
op. 10/3
op. 13
op. 22
op. 27/2

I don't have the list for the next years. Hope this helps!





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