Suggestion Fingering: Bumble bee Rimsky, rachmaninov arr... at presto

[allegroz]

For who already played this piece at presto (184 BPM) or faster, can u give me suggestion fingering for this section, especially at the yellow highlight marker (chord).


now, i using fingering (15)31214323212(15)213(15)... all chord using (15), but i just get about 160BPM on that section... can't get faster....
already tried using (35)..........(15)....(35). but feel akward, play slower...

help

[lostinidlewonder]

You can try a more oscillating thumb movement. Thumb is of course not a finger to over use in fast sections since it can cause tension, so we can reduce it to this:

(15)432 1432 1432 (15)234 etc

I like that because the thumbs movement is constant. Make sure that the middle fingers maintain their position when covering D#,D+C# for two groups, and then also how it shifts briefly to the F E D# for one group.

[allegroz]

You can try a more oscillating thumb movement. Thumb is of course not a finger to over use in fast sections since it can cause tension, so we can reduce it to this:

(15)432 1432 1432 (15)234 etc

I like that because the thumbs movement is constant. Make sure that the middle fingers maintain their position when covering D#,D+C# for two groups, and then also how it shifts briefly to the F E D# for one group.

(15)432 1432 1432 (15)234
hmmm, I can't use that fingering, because my hand must be jumped a little bit when (15)4...
And i can't hold my pinky (5th finger) to hold A when my 4th finger press D#....

Now I train to using my second best fingering (35)..........(15)....(35), maybe it better if I accostum to play with it...

[pianistimo]

What if...you forgot about the A on top by leaving it to some kind of 'cross over' occasionally with the left hand - and focused only on the single notes with the right hand?  That would give you the opportunity to really bring out the line: 54321, 543, 54321...  and so on.

[lostinidlewonder]

(15)432 1432 1432 (15)234
hmmm, I can't use that fingering, because my hand must be jumped a little bit when (15)4...
And i can't hold my pinky (5th finger) to hold A when my 4th finger press D#....

You do not have to hold the little finger down just play it and release it immediately. If you are playing the passage super fast that's all you have to do to make it sound right. Try playing the passage without the 5th, then introduce it without enslaving the 5th to hold down its note.