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Offline allegroz

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Rimsky Korsakov bumble bee (Rachmaninov arr.)
on: December 27, 2008, 11:17:25 AM
Bumble bee 15 Dec 2008: latest 160-170BPM
23 oct 2008, slower tempo

i think i need A LOT more practice to improve my speed...

need advice and suggestion
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Offline pianowolfi

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Re: Rimsky Korsakov bumble bee (Rachmaninov arr.)
Reply #1 on: December 27, 2008, 12:18:10 PM
seriously, forget speed, for now. You need to work on accuracy and precision.

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Re: Rimsky Korsakov bumble bee (Rachmaninov arr.)
Reply #2 on: December 27, 2008, 02:00:02 PM
seriously, forget speed, for now. You need to work on accuracy and precision.
thanks for your suggestion...
if u ever learn this piece, can u answer my question about fingering at:
https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,32529.msg380429.html#msg380429
thanks

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Re: Rimsky Korsakov bumble bee (Rachmaninov arr.)
Reply #3 on: December 30, 2008, 10:09:57 PM
I am no expert, and have not actually listened to this recording, but I did listen to the chopin recording and thought the same as wolfi.

Speed will not disguise the "bum" notes.
Sacrifice some speed in order to get the notes right.

P.S. and I don't/can't play either pieces.
If God really exists, then why haven't I got more fingers?

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Re: Rimsky Korsakov bumble bee (Rachmaninov arr.)
Reply #4 on: December 31, 2008, 08:59:51 AM
Thank you for all advices.... now i am realize that i need a lot of ACCURACY not speed, i desperate achieve speed in the last 1-2 month.....
BTW, The benefit that I get from play fast is My fingering for this piece fit to play fast speed, so i don't get speedwall.

now my method is, Relax, playing fast and FREE (without burden to get faster) record my playing and play it in computer using 0.5 speed or slower... so i clearly see my precision and accuracy when playing fast.... if i found it, I play slower, see my hand movement to get solution..... is it okay? I just cleaning up alot of mess....

In fact I now study piano and learn new piece without teacher, after nearly 6 years I has studied with teacher... I think i can study by myself but I meet a problem here...

Thank you

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Re: Rimsky Korsakov bumble bee (Rachmaninov arr.)
Reply #5 on: January 12, 2009, 07:58:48 PM
Have you tried practicing with different rhythm patterns? i.e. make the four 16ths like, 1st 16th like an 8th, the 2nd 16th like a 32th, 3d again 8th and 4th 32th and viceversa. Do I make my self clear? I speako poor english :p but that might help. of course do it SLOWLY. After that you can try making the rests on less notes like
Other suggestion is to practice everything ppp very evenly and also FFF also evenly while being very relaxed on your elbow (but not jumping). Also, you should watch that your fingers hit the exact same spot in white and black keys, that's why it doesn't sound even and seems that you're moving too much up and down on the keyboard, instead of sideways. That's what I hear, I might be wrong though. Good post! Is a hard piece
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