Indiana University

[thalbergmad]

If there is anyone here that studies at the above University and would like to do a little job for me, please make yourself known.

Luv

Thalx

[pianistimo]

Now what do you want?  Scores, I suppose.  Well, why don't you just come over and get them.  That's the cheapest way.  You can't ask people to read your mind and to make it worth the time it's just better to get it all rounded up yourself.  That means taking a trip somewhere other than to those bird islands called 'twatt' or whatever.

Indiana used to have a lot of scores online.  What is with all this 'big brother' munching score stuff?  Some of this has been resold a thousand times.  For what?  profit.  That it.  They don't have a widget to do with the composer or anything.  And, the publishers are long dead.

Can I tell you a secret.  The most interesting things i've found are from estate sales and flea markets.  That's the real deal.  For one thing, you have the living score.  Oh, and antique bookstores.

[thalbergmad]

Thanks for your lucid response. Not even I would fly to America to get a score.

You have however guessed correctly and it is a score I am after. The nice people at Indiana have even scanned it for me but they have an internal programme that i cannot access. I have sent a couple of e mails but to no avail.

I will post the link, and anyone that can access and send me a pdf gets a dozen cream eggs.

Thal

[pianistimo]

Here is your best bet:

https://orientation.indiana.edu/IUSIF/iusif02.jpg

[thalbergmad]

https://purl.dlib.indiana.edu/iudl/variations/score/BHS2721

Here is the link to the piano concerto of Bolko Graf von Hochberg.

Anyone who can access this wins a night out with pianistimo.

Anyone who fails gets two.

Thal

[retrouvailles]

I'm in Los Angeles, but I should be able to get this through my university's very good interlibrary loan system. I have been able to get such scores in the past. I will see what I can do within the next coming weeks, as the university is closed right now for Christmas. Heaven knows I owe you, Thal.

EDIT: Here are some other locations, which might prove useful:

https://www.worldcat.org/oclc/21489132

A direct call to The Free Library of Pennsylvania might work if an interlibrary loan doesn't. There are some nice folks there who lent me the parts for the Arensky Fantasia when I played it with an orchestra a few years back.

Also, is this concerto any good?

[pianistimo]

Oh, yes.  Worldcat.  I forgot about that.   

Here's the minister of arts and sciences at Indiana:

Mistress Elisabeth Johanna von der Flossenberg

If that doesn't work - try dean of the War College: Lord Gareth Kincaid.

There's also the hound mistress Lady Ulfayonar.

[thalbergmad]

Thanks retro that is very decent of you.

I have purchased scores from the Bibliothek Des Herder Inst before and had found a copy there (as your link indicates), but the lady who answers e mails seems to get narked when i cannot respond in German, so i thought i would leave her alone.

The Free library of Philadelphia is the Fleisher Collection and they do not offer a copy service, so Indiana is my last hope. What is irritating is that they have actually scanned it, but i cannot access the scan.

Perhaps if there is something in UK libraries you are particularly looking for, I could return the compliment.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

If that doesn't work - try dean of the War College: Lord Gareth Kincaid.

There's also the hound mistress Lady Ulfayonar.

Thanks very much, that is very sweet of you.

Writing to the Dean of the War college and the hound mistress, for an obscure piano concerto had not crossed my mind.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

Also, is this concerto any good?

Absolutely no idea old chap.

Hinsons guide describes it as Post Reger with a kinship with the Richard Strauss Burleska.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

Indiana used to have a lot of scores online.  What is with all this 'big brother' munching score stuff?  Some of this has been resold a thousand times.  For what?  profit.  That it.  They don't have a widget to do with the composer or anything.  And, the publishers are long dead.

Well, i doubt if this particular score ever passed the 1,000 mark in the first place, so nobody is really going to profit any more.

The publishers are very much alive, but if you write to a publisher asking for a copy of a long out of print work, you will be lucky to get a "bugger off".

Thal

[m]

Thal,

Save the file from the link you posted above on your desktop. It seems in order to view it you will need Variation2 program. You can download it from here:

https://variations2.indiana.edu/use/where.html

It seems it should work.

Best, M

Anyone who can access this wins a night out with pianistimo.

Anyone who fails gets two.

Thal

P.S. If it works, as a prize can I have a quiet and peaceful night of NOT going with Pianistimo anywhere? 

[thalbergmad]

Already tried that old chap, but you need a user name and a password to download it as it is for students only.

I think I will leave it a couple of weeks before i send another e mail to Indiana. The poor librarian lady will get fed up with me.

If that does not work, i will start German lessons next year so i can converse with the other holding library.

All for something that is probably horrid. But i will not know until i see it.

Thal

PS - prize changed to tickets to my all Woelfl Concert in March.

[mike_lang]

I just finished a degree there - if my account isn't deactivated, I'll try to download the score in the morning.

Cheers,
Mike

[thalbergmad]

Thank you sir, that would be brill.

Thal

[pianistimo]

Out of curiosity, is it worth the paper it's now printed on?  This reminds me of my grandmother's cache of songs from her piano bench - one of which was 'don't fence me in' and 'the desert song.'  You sit down, play it once - call it a day.  What with a name like 'Bolko....' 

[retrouvailles]

How many times do you edit your posts, pianistimo? I could have sworn that last post looked different the last time I looked at it. Then, I come back here a few hours later and see that this topic had changed, only to find your post edited. Don't worry, no one takes you seriously enough for you to care so much about how well your posts are "crafted".

So, has the score been procured by the member who had access to Indiana University's digital library?

[pianistimo]

I decided to omit 'what was his mother thinking when she named him Bolko.'  Out of respect.  To the composer.  Of course, my careful editing isn't noticed since it's simply either re-wording or eliminating unnecessary statements to the relevance of the topic.

The topic hasn't changed dramatically. 

He's kind of a funny composer, you know.  What with the moustache and all.  He was actually a conductor/pianist - and worked with the Opera house.  What kind of a concerto did he write?  Your guess is as good as mine.  If it sounded like  Strauss's Burleske and a Military march together - he probably wrote it after drinking a few pints.

One thing that made me laugh in reading about the period 'grandfather's day was not far off...on march 22, 1897 he would have been 100  years old.'  Now, this wasn't talking about Bolko - but it's just a little reminiscent of the times.  You know, grandma's piano bench music.  However, Rondes Le Sylphes could bring it to life.  Thal, however, may just drown the music with a little too much pedal.

[retrouvailles]

Yet another edit by pianistimo has been done...

Just create another post if you have that much to add. It would make your current post count larger.

[mike_lang]

So, has the score been procured by the member who had access to Indiana University's digital library?

The trouble is, it takes not only a university ID, but also enrollment in a class which requires access to Variations2.  When the new semester begins, I will go try at the music library itself - it should work on the computers there.  The only thing I don't know is whether the score is downloadable or not.

[mike_lang]

eliminating unnecessary statements to the relevance of the topic.

Give me your scissors - I will take care of your PF oeuvre.

[pianistimo]

You must have a very thin laptop to be able to snip things out with a scissor.  However, the privo laptop my son was going to get - he was advised not to for the very same reason.  It was so thin on the lid that people kept complaining the lids were breaking too easy.

[thalbergmad]

Out of curiosity, is it worth the paper it's now printed on? 

Probably worth more than your entire Bible collection.

If you have nothing of value to add, kindly get the hell out of my thread.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

Of course, my careful editing isn't noticed since it's simply either re-wording or eliminating unnecessary statements to the relevance of the topic.

If that were the case, your post count would be 3 and each one 2 sentences long.

[mike_lang]

You must have a very thin laptop

No, voodoo doll.