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Topic: Does anyone know the grade level of these pieces?  (Read 3877 times)

Offline cziffra

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Does anyone know the grade level of these pieces?
on: June 06, 2004, 06:03:26 PM
i'm learning these pieces at the moment and i was wondering if anyone knew what "grade" they're supposed to be.  

Bach, Prelude and Fugue C#m book 2
Haydn, Sonata Hob XVI:52 (E major, the last one)
Rachmaninoff, Elegie op 3:1
Debussy, Gardens in the rain
Scarlatti, Sonata L164

i'd appreciate any help
thanks in advance
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Offline donjuan

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Re: Does anyone know the grade level of these piec
Reply #1 on: June 06, 2004, 07:44:26 PM
I thought most of Bachs preludes and Fugues were grade 10, but there may be some exceptions (like Prelude in C, book one)

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Re: Does anyone know the grade level of these piec
Reply #2 on: June 06, 2004, 07:54:18 PM
The first three are grade 10

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Re: Does anyone know the grade level of these piec
Reply #3 on: June 06, 2004, 11:53:44 PM
Grades are ABRSM (grade 8 being the highest)

Bach, Prelude and Fugue C#m book 2  - Above grade 8 (my own opinion is that this particular prelude & fugue would rate 35th in difficulty amongst the 48 ).

Haydn, Sonata Hob XVI:52 (E major, the last one) . I think you mean Eb major. All movements are above grade 8.

Rachmaninoff, Elegie op 3:1 – Grade 8.

Debussy, Gardens in the rain  - Above grade 8.

Scarlatti, Sonata L164  - Grade 6/7. Beautiful sonata, check out Horowitz and Perahia’s very different approaches to it.

Best wishes,
Bernhard
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Re: Does anyone know the grade level of these piec
Reply #4 on: June 07, 2004, 05:49:11 AM
haydn wrote grade 8 stuff?
i don't know i just finished one of his sonatas and i think i am going to kill myself if i hear it once more.
sorry im not helping much am i?

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Re: Does anyone know the grade level of these piec
Reply #5 on: June 07, 2004, 11:45:46 AM
sorry guys about the haydn, the 1st and third movements are in e flat as bernard said but when i typed it iw as thinking of the second in e major

thanks very much for the replies!

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my own opinion is that this particular prelude & fugue would rate 35th in difficulty amongst the 48

i couldn't help but find that slightly amusing...what is the order of the other 34 that are harder?
p.s i found this one absolutely immense!  to think 34 get incrementally harder is almost suicide-inciting
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Re: Does anyone know the grade level of these piec
Reply #6 on: June 08, 2004, 02:07:00 AM
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i couldn't help but find that slightly amusing...what is the order of the other 34 that are harder?
p.s i found this one absolutely immense!  to think 34 get incrementally harder is almost suicide-inciting



Don’t hang yourself/throw yourself from the bridge yet.  ;D

It is the other way around. There are 34 easier preludes and fugues than the C#m one. Here is the full list from the easiest (around grade 7) to the most difficult (well above grade 8 ):


1. no. 15 in  G (Book II) (grade 7)
2. no. 6 in Dm (grade 8 )
3. no. 21 in Bb (grade 8 )
4. no. 10 in Em (grade 7)
5. no. 20 in Am (Book II)
6. no. 11 in F
7. no. 2 in Cm
8. no. 9 in E (grade 8 )
9. no. 13 in F# (grade 8 )
10. no. 21 in Bb (Book II)
11. no. 6 in Dm (Book II)
12. no. 19 in A (Book II)
13. no. 11 in F (Book II)
14. no. 19 in A
15. no. 14 in F#m
16. no. 18 in G#m (grade 8 )
17 no. 2 in Cm (Book II)
18. no. 5 in D (grade 8 )
19. no. 7 in Eb
20. no. 14 in F#m (Book II)
21. no. 7 in Eb (Book II)
22. no. 1 in C
23. no. 17 in Ab
24. no. 13 in F# (Book II)
25. no. 15 in G (grade 7 )
26. no. 12 in Fm (Book II)
27. no. 1 in C (Book II) (grade 8 )
28. no. 24 in Bm (Book II)
29. no. 10 in Em (Book II)
30. no. 16 in Gm
31. no. 5 in D (Book II)
32. no. 18 in G#m (Book II)
33. no. 24 in Bm
34. no. 9 in E (Book II)
35. no. 4 in C#m (Book II)
36. no. 23 in B
37. no. 3 in C# (Book II)
38. no. 12 in Fm
39. no. 3 in C#
40. no. 8 in D#m (Book II)
41. no. 22 in Bbm
42. no. 17 in Ab (Book II)
43. no 4 in C#m
44. no. 8 in D#m
45. no. 20 in Am
46. no. 22 in Bbm (Book II)
47. no. 16 in Gm (Book II)
48. no. 23 in B (Book II)

[grades in brackets are preludes and fugues that have appeared in the past in ABRSM exams].

I have already posted this list in another thread, but I will repeat it here, since I would like to know if anyone has a different order.

Best wishes,
Bernhard.


The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side. (Hunter Thompson)
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