Hinty and Mr Logic

[thalbergmad]

I have noticed that as time passes, Hinty is beginning to sound more and more like a cartoon character called Mr Logic. Here is an example where Mr Logic is working for a post office and is in the process of being robbed....................



Armed Robber: No nonsense. Just give me all your money.

:Mr Logic: I shall commence by pointing out to you that my demeanour is not one which could be described as nonsensical. Consequently I can attest you have no cause to reprimand me on your first point. On to your second point: Bearing in mind the potentially lethal situation in which I find myself, to wit: your presence in conjunction with the presumably loaded firearm which is presently levelled at my cranium, I will comply with your request comprehensively, albeit reluctantly. Here, twenty-seven pence.

:Armed Robber: Twenty-seven pence? **** off. There's more than that in the till.

:Mr Logic: Indeed, undoubtedly so. However your request was for *my* money. The currency in the till belongs to a third party and is therefore not "my money". However, if you are still desirous of said money I would suggest that you re-phrase your original statement to recognise and incorporate this important distinction.

THE END

See the similarity??

Thal

[thalbergmad]

[ahinton]

Well, no one else sems yet to see the logic, so perhaps it may be because I am not in the habit of stealing other people's money,

That said, you can buy the first G&T in the pub in Hay-on-Wye...

Best,

Alistair

[pies]

The only thing that's missing is a beard

[ronde_des_sylphes]

Sadly, I seem to recall that Mr. Logic's first name is Lawrence.

[ryguillian]

I have noticed that as time passes, Hinty is beginning to sound more and more like a cartoon character called Mr Logic. Here is an example where Mr Logic is working for a post office and is in the process of being robbed....................



Armed Robber: No nonsense. Just give me all your money.

:Mr Logic: I shall commence by pointing out to you that my demeanour is not one which could be described as nonsensical. Consequently I can attest you have no cause to reprimand me on your first point. On to your second point: Bearing in mind the potentially lethal situation in which I find myself, to wit: your presence in conjunction with the presumably loaded firearm which is presently levelled at my cranium, I will comply with your request comprehensively, albeit reluctantly. Here, twenty-seven pence.

:Armed Robber: Twenty-seven pence? **** off. There's more than that in the till.

:Mr Logic: Indeed, undoubtedly so. However your request was for *my* money. The currency in the till belongs to a third party and is therefore not "my money". However, if you are still desirous of said money I would suggest that you re-phrase your original statement to recognise and incorporate this important distinction.

THE END

See the similarity??

Thal

And I'm beginning to sound more and more like this (as passing time does vast tracts):

https://ryguillian.com/beckettfucked.jpg

[ahinton]

And I'm beginning to sound more and more like this (as passing time does vast tracts):

https://ryguillian.com/beckettfucked.jpg

You did write "sound", so have you developed an Irish accent?...

Best,

Alistair

[lostinidlewonder]

Everyone can make themselves sound right, especially about very unimportant issues. I've read ramblings of a schizophrenic and if you look close enough you can also see their logic and make sense of it, but it is utterly useless to mainstream society. I like to see logic turned around to some constructive force that everyone can enjoy.

[thalbergmad]

I've read ramblings of a schizophrenic

On here??

[ahinton]

On here??

I realise, of course, that it is not for me to answer for anyone else, but perhaps a subtle reference is being made to certain postings of your own...

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

but perhaps a subtle reference is being made to certain postings of your own...

Distinctly possible as i have seen the inside of a few padded cells due to my illness.

Thal

[ahinton]

Distinctly possible as i have seen the inside of a few padded cells due to my illness.

What can I say but ask you for an explanatory PM, if you are willing to provide one; this sounds to be no joking matter. No obligation, of course.

Best,

Alistair

[lostinidlewonder]

I mean I actually read ramblings of a real schizophrenic, I'm not considering anyone here. But we all can convince ourselves and others that we are right, even if it is about a topic which has no real importance to our life.

[ahinton]

But we all can convince ourselves and others that we are right, even if it is about a topic which has no real importance to our life.

I suppose that this is the case and, although I am personally neither right nor wrong about this topic (since there seems not even to be any right or wrong to consider here), it most certainly does have no importance in my life.

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

it most certainly does have no importance in my life.

Which is clearly demonstrated by the fact that you have only posted 5 times in this thread.

Thal

[ahinton]

Which is clearly demonstrated by the fact that you have only posted 5 times in this thread.

Not so; it is demonstrated by the content of my posts here, not by their frequency.

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

6

[ahinton]

6

...is the number of strings on a standard guitar and one more than on a 5-string banjo and, having said that, the tally is obviously 7 now; however, my remark that the content rather than the frequency is an indicator of the topic's meaningfulness to me still stands, so unless you want to continue to prove to the members here that you are capable of counting above that number, I'd suggest that any additional such posts would seem to be about as redundant as the thread itself...

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

standrad guitare

I have no knowledge of this instrument.

[ahinton]

I have no knowledge of this instrument.

Nor do I, any more than I have knowlege of how it is that I can on occasion type so badly; far more importantly, however, do you have any useful input to this thread (and does anyone else)?

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

I don't have any useful input to any thread

[ahinton]

I don't have any useful input to any thread

Whilst I would not go so far as to agree with such an admission on your part, it nevertheless prompts me to wonder why you started this one...

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

To portray te likeness between your posts and said cartoon character.

[ahinton]

To portray te likeness between your posts and said cartoon character.

Leaving aside the question of what is meant by "te likeness", since no one has appeared so far to corroborate your apparent view of any such likeness and as, at the same time, you claim in your own words not to have "any useful input to any thread", I reiterate that it surprises me (as no doubt it also surprises others here) that you nevertheless choose to initiate a thread about something when you appear to have no evidence to support it and have "no useful input" to any such thread in the first place; perhaps it helps to fill up your time, but your valuable services in scanning rare public domain scores is greatly helpful to others and your banjo practice is probably helpful to you, so it occurs to me that each such activity is almost certainly more deserving of your time and of far more ultimate use than starting threads when, by your own admission, you have nothing useful to contribute to them.

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

At approximately the same time every day, you begin to become less coherent.

Pulled another cork have we??

Thal

[ahinton]

At approximately the same time every day, you begin to become less coherent.

Pulled another cork have we??

One may presume this to be yet another example of your lack of usefulness of thread input; ah, well - so be it...

Best,

Alistair

[goldentone]

*Enters Chat*

[thalbergmad]

One may presume this to be yet another example of your lack of usefulness of thread input; ah, well - so be it...

If this thread is of no use, i cannot understand why you keep posting in it.

Why don't you go and compose a nonet or something?

Thal

[ahinton]

If this thread is of no use, i cannot understand why you keep posting in it.

I did not say that it was of no use to anyone; I implied that it is of little interest to me. That said, it is you who have admitted to the general uselessness of your posts and, whilst I would take issue with that to the extent that I find some of them useful and some highly entertaining, the question remains as to why, if you regard the usefulness of your posts in so derogatory a way, you nevertheless initiated this thread which, by the way, is of infinitely less general interest and substance than some of what you write.

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

Why don't you go and compose a nonet or something?

Is that a commission? If so, please decide first whether it is to be a nonet or a something else (and specify the instrumentation if a nonet it is indeed to be) and then send me a PM or direct email with the details; I'll email you a contract to sign, by return. I should, however, warn you that I am quite busy at the moment so would regrettably be unable to complete such a work by the time I meet you at Jørgen Hald Nielsen's performance of my Grieg Variations in London on 16 April (which I very much hope to do).

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

I implied that it is of little interest to me.

Stop posting in it then.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

Is that a commission? If so, please decide first whether it is to be a nonet or a something else (and specify the instrumentation if a nonet it is indeed to be)

Yes, it is a commission for a nonet. I was wishing for something in the "modernist" style.

Instrumentation is 1 x Piano, 1 x plectrum banjo, 2 wet haddocks, 2 plastic toilet roll holders, 2 tennis racquets and some microwave background radiation.

Three movements required, approx 20 minutes.

I look forward to your quotation.

Thal

[ahinton]

Yes, it is a commission for a nonet. I was wishing for something in the "modernist" style.

Instrumentation is 1 x Piano, 1 x plectrum banjo, 2 wet haddocks, 2 plastic toilet roll holders, 2 tennis racquets and some microwave background radiation.

Three movements required, approx 20 minutes.

I look forward to your quotation.

Thal

Then I will sadly have to disappoint you. I would have nothing to do with plastic toilet roll holders, let alone two of them, I can think of far more appropriate ways of preparing the haddock than putting them in the microwave and what would be the point of two tennis racquets when there is no net? So - no movements at all, I fear (unless, of course, you can get someone else to take up your request).

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

Don't worry, I will find a composer to do it.

Thal

[ahinton]

Don't worry, I will find a composer to do it.

Thal

Good. And good luck! Do let us all know who that composer is, when the work will be forthcoming and the date and venue of the world première as well as the performers on that occasion, so that as many of us here will be able to consider attending; the "modernist" aspect of the work-to-be that you apparently desire will surely provide an added frisson to the proceedings, coming as it will as a quite novel departure from the customary 19th-century orientation for which most of us know you so well.

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

Good. And good luck! Do let us all know who that composer is

The composer is Gunner Gonner Gunnerson, formerly of the Norwegian Tractor Drivers Association.

I would let you know about the premier, but unlike some, i try not to use this site for personal advertising.

Thal

[ronde_des_sylphes]

The composer is Gunner Gonner Gunnerson, formerly of the Norwegian Tractor Drivers Association.

I hope you can revise the specified instrumentation so as to include a part for solo tractor

[m]

I hope you can revise the specified instrumentation so as to include a part for solo tractor

I think that's a great idea (not sure though if it fits Thal's envisioning of the project), however, on a practical side of things, not every stage manager would be happy to see a tractor on the stage, let alone the fact not many concert halls would have an access to those rather bulky things.

Best, M

[thalbergmad]

I hope you can revise the specified instrumentation so as to include a part for solo tractor

He has had enough of tractors and refused to have one included.

It would not amaze me if some contemporary knobend composer were to include one in a work.

Thal

[ahinton]

The composer is Gunner Gonner Gunnerson,

Your reference to "Gonner" suggests that this composer is no loner alive, so if he can still honour your commission this will in itself constitute a remarkable achievement in itself.

formerly of the Norwegian Tractor Drivers Association.

I take it that this was his day job beore he became a full time composer...

I would let you know about the premier, but unlike some, i try not to use this site for personal advertising.

It would hardly be that when you have already been invited to provide such details, would it?

What else will be on the programme? Richard Barrett's Tract or something else?

Anyway, see you at Schott's when you can perhaps update me on progress.

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

I think that's a great idea (not sure though if it fits Thal's envisioning of the project), however, on a practical side of things, not every stage manager would be happy to see a tractor on the stage, let alone the fact not many concert halls would have an access to those rather bulky things.

Oh, you never know; in a production of Moses und Aron many years ago they did actually have a cow on stage at one point - and, yes it did...

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

He has had enough of tractors and refused to have one included.

It would not amaze me if some contemporary knobend composer were to include one in a work.

Thal

What is a knobend composer? Is Knobend a composer himself and are such composers his acolytes? Just curious. Anyway, enough of such tractortuous argumants...

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

What else will be on the programme? Richard Barrett's Tract or something else?

Did not know Barrett wrote a piece called something else.

My premier will also include the 2nd piano concerto of Erik Chisholm played by myself and Richard Black.

You know how i love Scottish composers.

Thal

[ahinton]

Did not know Barrett wrote a piece called something else.

My premier will also include the 2nd piano concerto of Erik Chisholm played by myself and Richard Black.

You know how i love Scottish composers.

Thal

Does Richard Black know about this? Do let him know if not and do also let us have details of this première, as it gets more fascinating by the minute.

No, Richard Barrett has yet to write a piece called "something else" but he does have a piece called "No!" and, perhaps when you're done commissioning your Norwegian friend, you might ask Mr Barrett to write such a piece as you mention...

Best,

Alistair

[m]

Oh, you never know; in a production of Moses und Aron many years ago they did actually have a cow on stage at one point - and, yes it did...

Well yeah, on the other hand, I presume if the composition is worthwhile they just could build a special theater. You know, Wagner did...

Best, M

[thalbergmad]

Well yeah, on the other hand, I presume if the composition is worthwhile they just could build a special theater. You know, Wagner did...
 

That is true.

I have heard for the premier of Mr Hinton's Grieg Variations, they are going to borrow a canopy from a hot dog stand.

Thal

[ahinton]

I have heard for the premier of Mr Hinton's Grieg Variations, they are going to borrow a canopy from a hot dog stand.

I have no more idea where or from whom you may have heard this than I have of the possible use to which such a canopy might be put in such circumstances (or indeed who might lend such a thing), but I presume that whoever it may have been forgot to mention the requirement for a time machine as well,  since the première of that work took place some eighteen years ago.

Best,

Alistair

[m]

Your reference to "Gonner" suggests that this composer is no loner...

I guess it depends what kind of tracks he was driving. If it is big trailers going across the continent then "Gonner" contrary to your observation would rather suggest he was going to frequent long trips, rather than being a "no loner", wouldn't it?  On the other hand indeed, he might very well had somebody accompaning him on those trips, but then again, without knowing that piece of information still the "Gonner" by itself does not suggest that he was a "no loner".

Best, M

[ahinton]

I guess it depends what kind of tracks he was driving. If it is big trailers going across the continent then "Gonner" contrary to your observation would rather suggest he was going to frequent long trips, rather than being a "no loner", wouldn't it?  On the other hand indeed, he might very well had a company, but without that piece of information still the "Gonner" by itself does not suggest that he was a no loner.

Very possibly (or equally possibly not - or even more possibly neither [which is a piece by Feldman rather than Barrett]), but one may presume that we are not here talking about Gonner Johansen...

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

since the première of that work took place some eighteen years ago.

Let us hope that the two people that attended the premier will not want a second helping.

Might have to get a larger hot dog stand if too many turn up.

Thal