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Offline birba

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duchable
on: March 09, 2009, 09:13:54 AM
I hadn't ever heard of this Duchable guy until I read about him somewhere here in piano forum.  The you.tube has some outstanding bits and pieces of him.  I went to the Wikipedia and what do I read?  He turned completely against the whole classic music system, and dropped his piano from a helicopter into a lake!  Now, supposedly, he only plays in hospitols and teaches young children?  On the one hand, I can't blame him. I've been at this as long as he has.  On the other hand, I can't help but imagine some gimmick behind it all.

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Re: duchable
Reply #1 on: March 12, 2009, 04:55:20 AM
He turned completely against the whole classic music system, and dropped his piano from a helicopter into a lake! 

I think it was a wise decision on his end. Hopefully, as time passes he does not change his mind.

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Re: duchable
Reply #2 on: March 12, 2009, 05:28:11 AM
I would have dropped the classical music system in the lake, instead of my piano.  :)
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Re: duchable
Reply #3 on: March 15, 2009, 08:16:42 PM
I would have dropped the classical music system in the lake, instead of my piano.  :)
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Re: duchable
Reply #4 on: March 15, 2009, 09:17:40 PM
I think it was a wise decision on his end.

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If you ever dropped your piano in the lake, I would follow it there just in case it ever echoed from days when you may not have felt like dropping it there.

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Re: duchable
Reply #5 on: March 15, 2009, 09:46:58 PM
If you ever dropped your piano in the lake, I would follow it there just in case it ever echoed from days when you may not have felt like dropping it there.
Au lac de Wallenstadt (Liszt, Années de Pèlerinage, for those that might not know) seems somehow to spring unbidden to what's left of my mind...

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Re: duchable
Reply #6 on: March 15, 2009, 10:20:38 PM
Au lac de Wallenstadt (Liszt, Années de Pèlerinage, for those that might not know) seems somehow to spring unbidden to what's left of my mind...

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A very special piece to me, actually, which I may have yet to truly play for the correct set of ears. 

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Re: duchable
Reply #7 on: March 16, 2009, 02:59:09 AM
If you ever dropped your piano in the lake, I would follow it there just in case it ever echoed from days when you may not have felt like dropping it there.

Well yeah... I just meant something else...
In any case, once I make a decision I'll let you know  :D

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Re: duchable
Reply #8 on: March 16, 2009, 03:12:40 AM
In any case, once I make a decision I'll let you know  :D

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hmmm ... are you telling me to go jump in a lake ?  :o :P

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Re: duchable
Reply #9 on: March 16, 2009, 03:49:21 AM
hmmm ... are you telling me to go jump in a lake ?  :o :P

No, what I was trying to tell is it is OK for Duchable not to play piano anymore...  ;)

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Re: duchable
Reply #10 on: March 16, 2009, 03:52:33 AM
No, what I was trying to tell is it is OK for Duchable not to play piano anymore...  ;)

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Yeah, I almost got it before but now I definitely do.  hee hee ... sorry, I was really just being goofy.  I don't know him, but now perhaps I will have to find out more about him !

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Re: duchable
Reply #11 on: March 16, 2009, 03:59:09 AM
I don't know him, but now perhaps I will have to find out more about him !

Good fingers, good techinque, not much more to say... why bother?

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Re: duchable
Reply #12 on: March 16, 2009, 08:54:19 PM
Hopefully, as time passes he does not change his mind.

Best, M

I think that if he does manage to change his mind as time passes, perhaps he will have found more in himself and the endeavor than just good fingers and a good technique, there could be more to say then regarding his playing, and perhaps it would be worth him buying a new piano (or fishing the old one out  :P) !  Either way, perhaps it WAS a very wise decision, as you suggest !

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Re: duchable
Reply #13 on: March 17, 2009, 08:59:54 PM
I think it was a wise decision on his end. Hopefully, as time passes he does not change his mind.

Best, M

Ouch!!!  :o ;)


I respect his given reasons for leaving the classical scene (although I don't entirely agree with them) but the whole helicopter stunt was a bit much, and in and of itself was very elitist and pretentious, two of the things he was protesting about classical piano. He could have given that piano to a deserving young person who couldn't afford one. Or to me!  >:(

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Re: duchable
Reply #14 on: March 17, 2009, 11:14:40 PM
And that's why I think there was a bit of gimmick"ness" in the whole charade. ::)

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Re: duchable
Reply #15 on: March 17, 2009, 11:23:05 PM
Like when KLF burned 1 million quid.
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Re: duchable
Reply #16 on: March 18, 2009, 07:24:51 AM
KLF?  Here we go again with these "inside" abbreviations.  Let me think...nope, I give up. ???

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"A gentleman is someone who knows how to play an accordion, but doesn't." - Al Cohn

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Re: duchable
Reply #18 on: March 18, 2009, 11:12:48 PM
Wow.  Incredibally stupid.  Think of the help it could have provided some needy pianist.

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Re: duchable
Reply #19 on: March 18, 2009, 11:23:47 PM
Wow.  Incredibally stupid.  Think of the help it could have provided some needy pianist.

Except Duchable
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Re: duchable
Reply #20 on: March 23, 2009, 01:35:16 PM
Wow.  Incredibally stupid.  Think of the help it could have provided some needy pianist.

Hold on, everyone.  I know Duchable personally and can assure you of the sincerity of all of this.  And a MAJOR point to be made: the "piano" that was thrown into the lake was a sculpted imitation of one, and NOT a real one.  Totally symbolic object for a totally symbolic gesture.  Yes, he was throwing the entire classical music "game" into that lake.  Think of Glenn Gould and his wanting out of the tiresome stage-hall ritual, preferring the recording studio.  As for Duchable, an extraordinarily gifted prodigy for whom everything started very early, all with ease, and who burned out from the grinding routine.  My personal reaction to that:  if he had bothered to cultivate interest in CREATION, in what was happening in terms of living composers continuing to write (and in many cases, great) music for the piano, and not only rehash the masters of the past, this might have kept the spark alive.  Didn't happen.

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Re: duchable
Reply #21 on: March 23, 2009, 01:37:44 PM
I think she commented the KLF "performance"
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Re: duchable
Reply #22 on: March 25, 2009, 06:33:05 AM
"KLF"?

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Re: duchable
Reply #23 on: March 25, 2009, 10:46:20 AM
I guess not.
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Re: duchable
Reply #24 on: March 25, 2009, 11:08:16 AM
French classical pianist FRANCOIS-RENE DUCHABLE is quitting the industry in protest at its elitism - by destroying two grand pianos and burning his recital suit at his last three gigs.

Duchable - who won France's soloist of the year title three years in a row in the 1990s - believes the piano is an "arrogant instrument", so at the end of this month (JUL03) he plans to launch his piano into LAKE MERCANTOUR in the French Alps in his first farewell concert.

The second farewell concert will see Duchable burning his recital suit on stage, while the last gig will see him blow-up his piano in mid-air.

He says, "I have had enough of sacrificing my life for one per cent of the population. I have had enough of participating in a musical system, which in France at least, function badly and limits classical music to an elite.

"Used as this society uses it, the piano is an arrogant instrument which excludes all those that don't know about music."
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Re: duchable
Reply #25 on: March 28, 2009, 09:12:17 PM
Agree with Marik. He's totally obsessed with technique to the point of being a trivial musician.  Not what music should be about.
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Re: duchable
Reply #26 on: May 01, 2009, 06:05:17 PM
Just an information, he stopped... but still goes on.
https://www.ville-sevres.fr/ewb_pages/a/actualite-5184.php

But not in the same context as in early's 2000, for sure (Sèvres is a small town near Paris, France)

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Re: duchable
Reply #27 on: May 02, 2009, 07:38:34 AM
I love that : "soutenues par la musique de F. Chopin".  So he's gone into background music.
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