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Offline ryguillian

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"Paradise Lost"
on: March 12, 2009, 07:24:25 PM
We've all heard of John Milton's poem Paradise Lost and maybe we were even forced to read some of it in school at some point, but have any of us really sat down to read it? Recently I started reading Paradise Lost. I became mesmerized by the language of the thing: "Him the almighty power \ Hurled headlong flaming from the ethereal sky \ With hideous ruin and combustion down \ To bottomless perdition, there to dwell \ In adamantine chains and penal fire, \ Who durst defy the omnipotent to arms." I started first in a free edition on Project Gutenberg's Web site, but then I ran into cryptic passages like this one (I've bolded the most perplexing part): "Say first, for heaven hides nothing from thy view \ [ ... ] what cause \ Moved our grand parents in that happy state \ [ ... ] to fall off \ From their creator, and transgress his will \ For one restraint, lords of the world besides?" So I decided to get a better edition and decided on the Longman ed. edited by Alastair Fowler after reading dozens of reviews on Amazon.com. It's a pricey edition (about $60), but well worth it and the annotations are both copious and, more importantly, extremely useful. If you're going to bother reading this poem at all, you'd better be prepared to put a lot of time into it. There are some commentators like Philip Pullman (author of the sci-fi tract His Dark Materials) who think you should read it straight-through just focusing on the sound of the poem, but I think this is a meat-headed approach.

What do other forum members have to say about this work?
“Our civilization is decadent and our language—so the argument runs—must inevitably share in the general collapse.”
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Re: "Paradise Lost"
Reply #1 on: March 12, 2009, 10:47:32 PM
The Rachmaninoff's third concerto of literature.
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Re: "Paradise Lost"
Reply #2 on: March 12, 2009, 11:04:55 PM
I find it hard to understand. Almost everything he writes is symbolized but it's still great.
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Offline ryguillian

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Re: "Paradise Lost"
Reply #3 on: March 13, 2009, 12:31:57 AM
The Rachmaninoff's third concerto of literature.

And what can this possibly mean?
“Our civilization is decadent and our language—so the argument runs—must inevitably share in the general collapse.”
—, an essay by George Orwell

Offline ryguillian

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Re: "Paradise Lost"
Reply #4 on: March 13, 2009, 12:33:28 AM
I find it hard to understand. Almost everything he rights is symbolized but it's still great.

And what he lefts? ... Et facere et pati fortia Romanum est ... ? —

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Re: "Paradise Lost"
Reply #5 on: March 14, 2009, 01:30:28 PM
Haha that was a stupid grammar mistake.
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Re: "Paradise Lost"
Reply #6 on: March 14, 2009, 02:02:18 PM
I think I need an interpreter!   :o   
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Re: "Paradise Lost"
Reply #7 on: March 14, 2009, 04:08:48 PM
The great Dr. Samuel Johnson on Milton's "Paradise Lost":

"No one wished it longer."

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