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Offline tyler_johnson

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Ok let me try this again
on: March 16, 2009, 09:01:12 PM
I apologize if there was some confusion about my last post regarding the Chopin Scherzo.  I've re-created the audio file to better illustrate my point.  There are no notes that have been changed from Chopin's original composition.  Have a listen:

www.tyler-johnson.net/Scherzo(2).mp3

What I was trying to point out is that it sounds good if it were in 4/4 as well, and I think I like this phrasing better than the 3/4 version.  It sounds more melodic.

The first section of the mp3 is in 3/4 and the 2nd section is in 4/4.
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Offline go12_3

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Re: Ok let me try this again
Reply #1 on: March 16, 2009, 09:04:34 PM
Quite interesting!   ;)
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Offline cmg

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Re: Ok let me try this again
Reply #2 on: March 23, 2009, 11:23:14 PM
This is the one Scherzo I've never studied, so forgive my comment here, but, to be frank, I can't detect a difference in the two versions!  With this piece, as the others, I feel each bar as one beat and subdividing into 3/4 and 4/4 doesn't work for my ear.

At your current very slow tempo, which is way below tempo, is it perhaps just a psychological thing you're experiencing?  I mean, getting this up to tempo means each bar is just one big beat -- 3/4 or 4/4 notwithstanding.  It goes like the wind.  Why would you want to feel it any other way than the way it is written (in 3/4)?

I probably don't get what you're doing here.  Sorry.  Don't mean to sound rude.   
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Offline franzliszt2

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Re: Ok let me try this again
Reply #3 on: March 24, 2009, 06:43:09 PM
If you want to proove a point about phrasing it would be much much easier to post and actual performance of it in both ways you are describing. The whole midi thing doesn't work, phrasing is best left to the humans.

I don't see what is wrong with keeping it in 3/4, and phrasing it in 4 bar phrases :-s
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