Method

[8426]

What program do you have to follow in a conservatory or music school?

Do you have to play a certain scale/piece by a certain day?

Do you have a certain system or method you follow?

Because I want to follow a method (learning pieces, scales, etc.), but what would be good?

[dr suchong]

What program do you have to follow in a conservatory or music school?

Do you have to play a certain scale/piece by a certain day?

Do you have a certain system or method you follow?

Because I want to follow a method (learning pieces, scales, etc.), but what would be good?

Scales: (one scale a week) 1 to 2 hours daily.
Technical regime: 1 to 2 hours daily.
Etudes: 2 to 3 hours a day
Pieces: 2 to 3 hours a day.
Polyphony: 2 to 3 hours daily.

Of course, this schedule is malleable and is to be adjusted to student level. This is my own practice schedule anyways.

Dr. Suchong.

[go12_3]

Scales: (one scale a week) 1 to 2 hours daily.
Technical regime: 1 to 2 hours daily.
Etudes: 2 to 3 hours a day
Pieces: 2 to 3 hours a day.
Polyphony: 2 to 3 hours daily.

Of course, this schedule is malleable and is to be adjusted to student level. This is my own practice schedule anyways.

Dr. Suchong.

Seems to be an unreasonable amount of practicing on each area that you listed.  Just think, 8 hours at least?  Truly, I cannot imagine that!  Unless, I would like to know who in this forum follows such a routine.

[dr suchong]

Seems to be an unreasonable amount of practicing on each area that you listed.  Just think, 8 hours at least?  Truly, I cannot imagine that!  Unless, I would like to know who in this forum follows such a routine.

There is nothing extraordinary about this. Conservatory students consider this amount minimal for true learning. As I said, the time values are generic, and can be modified according to each student/situation.

Best, Dr. Suchong

[olszewski]

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[dr suchong]

The only good method is the one that works for you.

A very optimistic statement, but alas, one too often said. It is impossible for a student to know, a priori, what the best way to  technique is. Only under strict guidance can the student approach learning systematically and thus have the greatest amount of desired results.

[olszewski]

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[dr suchong]

Only under strict guidance of oneself can one have the greatest amount of desired results.

No! An absolutely fallacious assertion. The majority of people do not have the capacity for self-moderation. The human brain has a nasty tendency to turn away from a target. If a goal is to be reached, it is to be reached under the most severe of discipline. People have to learn the hard way. You must be moderated by a sovereign.

[olszewski]

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[go12_3]

If there is not going to be a goal, then there would not be any discipline.  People will chose what they can handle, whether it be in moderation or intensively, to move towards that desired goal.  Also, there has be a motivation in order to achieve the desired results in whatever goal to be attained.  No matter what method that a student embarks, it has to be a team work, between the student and the teacher, in order to make the student progress towards his or her goals.  Most of my students are too young to make concrete decisions about whether or not to pursue piano playing.  However, my two oldest students, can make the choices for themselves and reach their desired potential.  About the human brain, it can take in as much as we allow it too, providing that we are in good physical  and mental stamina.  To overdo in anything, would only set us back, and not move forward in the pace or goal, that we would want to attain. 

best wishes,

go12_3

[db05]

1. review of old pieces
2. technical exercises, usually Czerny
3. scales
4. arpeggios
5. sight reading
6. baroque piece, usually Bach
7. classical piece, usually sonatina or sonata
8. choice piece, usually romantic or modern

I would have a list like this, sort out priorities for the day and work on those things first. Ideally I would go through the whole thing. I'm not in a conservatory, btw, so this is a very loose schedule, about 10-15 mins for each number.

[go12_3]

1. review of old pieces
2. technical exercises, usually Czerny
3. scales
4. arpeggios
5. sight reading
6. baroque piece, usually Bach
7. classical piece, usually sonatina or sonata
8. choice piece, usually romantic or modern

I would have a list like this, sort out priorities for the day and work on those things first. Ideally I would go through the whole thing. I'm not in a conservatory, btw, so this is a very loose schedule, about 10-15 mins for each number.

see?  I deleted the "thank you", db   

[db05]

Now, that seems to be a more realistic approach in practicing piano, thank you, db

Thank you for what?

PS. If I'm in no mood to practice anything new, I override the entire list and practice my whole repertoire so far. Sometimes that gets me in the mood. Oh and it's good to try improvising once in a while.

[dr suchong]

I agree and disagree with this. You are wrong in that the majority of people do not have the capacity for self-moderation. The reason they do not have this capacity is for the exact reasons you have mentioned: their entire life they are moderated by a 'sovereign' with severe discipline and when the time comes for self-moderation, they are lost. However, I agree with you that moderation is needed, however, the goal of a teacher should always be to lead the student towards a point in which he/she is able to transcend the need for moderation.

Without moderation from the onstart, students will be more prone to chaos. Without moderation, true discipline will not emerge. They will be too inclinded to pursue goals in ways comfortable for them, no doubt to their detriment. For this reason, a sovereign is a must.

[Petter]

Scales: (one scale a week) 1 to 2 hours daily.
Technical regime: 1 to 2 hours daily.
Etudes: 2 to 3 hours a day
Pieces: 2 to 3 hours a day.
Polyphony: 2 to 3 hours daily.

Of course, this schedule is malleable and is to be adjusted to student level. This is my own practice schedule anyways.

Dr. Suchong.

Why do you bother, just get yourself a i!i!i!i!iMACHINEi!i!i!i!i!

[db05]

see?  I deleted the "thank you", db   

Now I'm even more confused.

[olszewski]

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[go12_3]

I think go posted a thank you in response to your plan but then took it back when you said you didn't know what he was thanking you for. 

Right on olszewski,  and by the way, I am a she, not a "he".