Improvisation - Stuck

[chopinatic]

Recently i have felt like i was stuck in a rut! im sure alot of people have had that feeling before, I wanted to let it out becuase i hate the feeling and i feel for those who have felt or will feel it.

I also wanted to send with it the message that i have used to help get me out of feeling like this and that is "THINGS COULD BE WORSE" i always think, if i had no arms, then i would have problems! you live once so why let yourself get down about silly things.

anyway!!

enjoy & comment

[go12_3]

Chopinatic,  This one touches me all the others!  Oh, my!  Again, your music is a delight to listen to with the harmonies and expressions you put into these improvs you have been recording.  Very nicely done!       

best wishes, 

go12_3

[chopinatic]

Chopinatic,  This one touches me all the others!  Oh, my!  Again, your music is a delight to listen to with the harmonies and expressions you put into these improvs you have been recording.  Very nicely done!       

best wishes, 

go12_3

Thanks, hope your feeling better soon Go12

[pianowolfi]

This is one of those things I sometimes encourage my students to try: play something like Moonlight Sonata (or Bach's first Prelude from WTC) and experiment with it and find your own harmonies. They seem rather scared to do this.
I like that you have the courage to do it, it's so interesting and you can go so many different ways from this starting point.

very intimate and touching indeed

[chopinatic]

This is one of those things I sometimes encourage my students to try: play something like Moonlight Sonata (or Bach's first Prelude from WTC) and experiment with it and find your own harmonies. They seem rather scared to do this.
I like that you have the courage to do it, it's so interesting and you can go so many different ways from this starting point.

very intimate and touching indeed

Thanks, and yes your right, there are so many different places to go with the same starting sequence. I think its great you encourage your students to do improv, i think its a skill that everyone should at least try and learn when they play the piano

[Derek]

Excellent. This music doesn't make me feel stuck at all. =)  I think the comparison to Moonlight Sonata is interesting because I believe, as you also clearly do, that you should never be afraid of the familiar. We could each record hundreds of improvisations that all use the same slow arpeggio texture and have them be totally different. Stravinsky would say you wrote the same piece hundreds of times (what he said of Vivaldi's concertos)...but we all know that is nonsense. Stravinsky was good but not all that humble.

*edit* Maybe it would be fun to have a thread that contains all "Moonlight sonata" spin offs, where we all use that same slow arpeggio texture but then do whatever we want with it with whatever harmony/melody/structure occurs to us.

[chopinatic]

Excellent. This music doesn't make me feel stuck at all. =)  I think the comparison to Moonlight Sonata is interesting because I believe, as you also clearly do, that you should never be afraid of the familiar. We could each record hundreds of improvisations that all use the same slow arpeggio texture and have them be totally different. Stravinsky would say you wrote the same piece hundreds of times (what he said of Vivaldi's concertos)...but we all know that is nonsense. Stravinsky was good but not all that humble.

*edit* Maybe it would be fun to have a thread that contains all "Moonlight sonata" spin offs, where we all use that same slow arpeggio texture but then do whatever we want with it with whatever harmony/melody/structure occurs to us.

I think that idea is great, using the same broken chord style of moonlight sonata, all the active improv posters and everyone who wants to try should try recording the the syle of moonlight and see what the outcome would be, i would think there would be alot of very powerful and emotional improvs.

I will record a few different attemps myself and post a thred and hope people start to join in, including you Derek !

Keep an eye out in the next few days for it

[furtwaengler]

This is one of those things I sometimes encourage my students to try: play something like Moonlight Sonata (or Bach's first Prelude from WTC) and experiment with it and find your own harmonies. They seem rather scared to do this.
I like that you have the courage to do it, it's so interesting and you can go so many different ways from this starting point.

Yes! I remember reading this and had to respond to it when I found this fragment on the same damaged tape as my last upload...I didn't sustain it very long, but that's for the best...it's an HORRIBLE recording!

(Unlike the real Chopinatic's beautiful recording above; a piece with a tragic wait and breadth which speaks loudly, and immediately communicates what was in the depth of his soul. What a way to revive out of a rut!)

My awful recording is below, and it will be obvious the reference to Wolfi's post. I hope it entertains somebody. (Atrocious!)

[pianowolfi]

I took this  opportunity to listen again to "Stuck", ( and to read my comment on it, and found nothing to add, I like it so much ) and to listen to "chopinitis" and enjoyed both of them very much

[chopinatic]

My awful recording is below, and it will be obvious the reference to Wolfi's post. I hope it entertains somebody. (Atrocious!)
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it entertained me, i liked it. i just read the post and i forgot to start to board i said about in my other messages. might get one started when i next have time to.

thank for listening again Wolfi

[chopinatic]

Yes! I remember reading this and had to respond to it when I found this fragment on the same damaged tape as my last upload...I didn't sustain it very long, but that's for the best...it's an HORRIBLE recording!

(Unlike the real Chopinatic's beautiful recording above; a piece with a tragic wait and breadth which speaks loudly, and immediately communicates what was in the depth of his soul. What a way to revive out of a rut!)

My awful recording is below, and it will be obvious the reference to Wolfi's post. I hope it entertains somebody. (Atrocious!)

Highly entertaining, thanks for posting! ashame about the quality of recording, however it adds a sence of age to it i think!
Thanks again!

[agentdark713]

Wow that is really awesome, I love it so much!

[countrymath]

can you give the chords, please?

[chopinatic]

Wow that is really awesome, I love it so much!

Thank you, im glad you enjoyed it

[chopinatic]

can you give the chords, please?

The bad think about improv is that unfortunatly i dont remember the chords, by listening to it tho i can tell you its in C minor, the first melody is D/Eb/G with a C bass which moves to Ab and then F minor. etc! Hope this helps at all!