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Offline goldolenu

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Kinda need help =/ Please read!
on: June 28, 2009, 04:31:42 AM
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Re: Kinda need help =/ Please read!
Reply #1 on: June 28, 2009, 05:13:49 PM
well...if ur really as talented as u say u r, i m profoundly sure u will get out of the 'mess' ur in. your obviously not very 'honest' in ur post. lol.

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Reply #2 on: June 28, 2009, 08:48:53 PM
As I said,english isnt my primary languague,so I might have said something wrong, I didnt mean Im gifted,I can learn things easily and thats it,but I do need like everyone else orientation from someone,because its impossible to learn everything by yourself,Im completely sorry if I said something wrong

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Reply #3 on: June 28, 2009, 09:36:31 PM
Hey, goldolenu,
Can you enroll in a music class where you live?    You can read use the pieces you are learning for technique purposes.  While your aunt is away, perhaps you can pick the pieces that will build your tecnique up.  Try a Chopin Etude or a waltz.  Any Bach prelude and fugue from the WTC Books 1 or 2 would work for technique, also. 

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Reply #4 on: June 29, 2009, 01:19:07 AM
Actually,I live far away from the capital of this state,the only music schools we have here,have VERY VERY bad reputation,but thanks for your advices :) Anyone else please? I would like something like  a practice routine,ty for the help guys!

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Reply #5 on: June 29, 2009, 03:47:34 AM
You sound like a person who feels limited by the nature of conservatory structure and teaching. 

Try to find a private teacher who will teach you good technique and the music you love.  If the conservatory is your only choice at the moment, take it - it is better than nothing.  Just remember you don't have to agree with the teaching methods.  Take what is useful to you and apply it, put the rest of it aside.  The goal is to gain enough education so that later on you can make your own musical decisions. 
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Reply #6 on: June 29, 2009, 04:22:16 AM
I agree with quantum. Maybe you can take a lesson with private teacher.
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Reply #7 on: June 29, 2009, 05:09:13 AM
Play all the music that you like, if you don't know what you like start listening to music, no one else can tell you what music you like but yourself. Make a list of all the pieces you like and put it in an order of difficulty and question yourself why one is more difficult than the other.

If you don't want to study under any school then of course you should simply do what music you enjoy. If your aim is to get better at the piano then you should get a good teacher. If you want to get better but not join a teacher, then master all of Chopin and Liszt Etudes and all of Bach Well Tempered Clavier. If you master all that you are pretty much on the right path to make your decision where you will further improve yourself. If that is too hard for you to manage then you would have to try and first determine what level you think you can play at.

When trying to teach yourself the danger is that you may find yourself in situations where you simply do not know that you do not know. There is no technical improvements or musical learning craft skills that one could give to you without seeing you play in person themeslves. This is why a good teacher is very important, someone who can observe what you do and make noticable (to yourself) improvements to your method.

If you really want more constructive help from people online then post videos or sound recordings of your playing.
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Re: Kinda need help =/ Please read!
Reply #8 on: June 29, 2009, 05:41:02 PM
can u at least give us a 'goal' which u want to achieve? keep it short and simple.

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Reply #9 on: June 29, 2009, 08:17:34 PM
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Reply #10 on: June 29, 2009, 09:01:20 PM
Hey Vinícius, I'm brazilian too, can I ask you in which state you live in?
Here's my adivice: there are several vacations music courses you can enter in. I was in one of them last summer, in Brasília, and I can say I learned more things on 2 weeks than in 2 months with my teachers. There are teachers for all over the world there (great, as you already speak english), and I improved a lot with their help. Those courses can be good for you, as you seem to dislike conservatories. There are courses in Brasília, Londrina, Fortaleza, Campos do Jordão...
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Reply #11 on: June 29, 2009, 09:57:31 PM
I live in São Paulo,more precisely in Mogi das Cruzes,yep,I really dislike conservatories,but unfortunately,on where I live,there arent many music courses =(

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Reply #12 on: June 30, 2009, 03:18:10 AM
P.S: Unfortunaly,I have already tried 2 private teachers,and I told them my objectives and they didnt help me,they wanted me to play the songs they wanted and didnt recommend me any book,plus they didnt teach me any theory =/

Keep on searching, the teachers you are looking for are out there.  Try asking around your music friends, as some teachers do not advertise. 

I too was fed up playing from conservatory books and the same rep as every other student of my teachers.  I didn't stop switching teachers till I found the one that would teach music that interested me. 
Made a Liszt. Need new Handel's for Soler panel & Alkan foil. Will Faure Stein on the way to pick up Mendels' sohn. Josquin get Wolfgangs Schu with Clara. Gone Chopin, I'll be Bach

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Reply #13 on: June 30, 2009, 05:10:42 PM
ok....why dont u just pm me?...i got exactly what u need. can even recommend u stuff. :) i do understand all the unhappiness that ur feeling. that ur unable to 'process' what u feel into ur instrument. and how the masters can hear and play so well.

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Reply #14 on: June 30, 2009, 05:43:50 PM
Just msged you

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Reply #15 on: June 30, 2009, 08:26:28 PM
Ok guys,I enjoyed and learned so much with your advices, please enlight me more with more of them :) I´ll keep an eye for a good teacher here!

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Reply #16 on: July 01, 2009, 01:30:40 AM
I have a doubt guys,I always wanted to know which notes matches with others,I mean,which notes with C sound something happy,which sound dissonant,I know many people just know from ear,but is there any cycle? Thats why I want to study theory so much =/
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