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Topic: Help with Appassionata  (Read 2893 times)

Offline Antnee

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Help with Appassionata
on: June 23, 2004, 05:57:01 AM
I'm nearing the end of Appassionata (mov 1)
But I need help with some phrasing. This passage is giving me problems...
https://download.35mb.com/tonykid1324/appassionata.JPG


The part where the thumb hits the B's in the second measure, I need to find a way to get that thumb quiet or, just make the melody sing out a bit more...
What practice methods should I use to help develop this phrasing technique?? Oh, and here is a recording of myself playing through that phrase... What do you think???

https://download.35mb.com/tonykid1324/appassionata.wav

-Tony-



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Offline goalevan

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Re: Phrasing
Reply #1 on: June 23, 2004, 06:15:46 AM
I thought that was real good tony, how long have you been playing again?

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Re: Phrasing
Reply #2 on: June 23, 2004, 08:30:32 AM
Tony, when I click your link, I get the "Sorry, we couldnt find________" message.  Is there a problem at my end or yours?
donjuan

Offline Bernardswatch

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Re: Phrasing
Reply #3 on: June 23, 2004, 12:20:18 PM
Links not working :'(

Offline Antnee

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Re: Phrasing
Reply #4 on: June 23, 2004, 03:37:50 PM
The same thing happened to me when I click, but trying to save it should work...

-Tony-
"The trouble with music appreciation in general is that people are taught to have too much respect for music they should be taught to love it instead." -  Stravinsky

Offline Antnee

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Re: Phrasing
Reply #5 on: June 23, 2004, 03:58:00 PM
Never mind it isn't working...

Let me try and fix it...

-Tony-
"The trouble with music appreciation in general is that people are taught to have too much respect for music they should be taught to love it instead." -  Stravinsky

Offline Saturn

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Re: Phrasing
Reply #6 on: June 23, 2004, 04:27:34 PM
Tony, for the future, you might want to host your files on servers that allow direct linking.  The only one I know of that allows this (besides college webspace which is usually what I use) is yahoo briefcase.  There are probably others though.

For pictures, a good one is photobucket.

Links:
https://briefcase.yahoo.com
https://www.photobucket.com

- Saturn

Offline Antnee

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Re: Phrasing
Reply #7 on: June 23, 2004, 05:53:25 PM
Ok should work now...

I think the problem was the recording program I was using. For some reason the file which was thirty seconds long was about eight MB in size... So with a different recording program it is now less than 1...  ::)
That's why I couldn't use yahoo at first... but it works now... so back to the topic... :)

-Tony-
"The trouble with music appreciation in general is that people are taught to have too much respect for music they should be taught to love it instead." -  Stravinsky

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Re: Phrasing
Reply #8 on: June 23, 2004, 08:05:51 PM
Tony, it still doesnt work...the jpg image needs a password (your password) to access, and the sound link still has the same problem- they cant find the web page.

Are you sure you typed stuff in right?
donjuan

Offline Antnee

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Re: Phrasing
Reply #9 on: June 23, 2004, 08:15:46 PM
>:( >:(
damn it...

-Tony-
"The trouble with music appreciation in general is that people are taught to have too much respect for music they should be taught to love it instead." -  Stravinsky

Offline Antnee

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Re: Phrasing
Reply #10 on: June 23, 2004, 09:50:28 PM
NOW IT WORKS!!! ;D ;D

-but only for seven days, then I have to pay...  :'(

-Tony-
"The trouble with music appreciation in general is that people are taught to have too much respect for music they should be taught to love it instead." -  Stravinsky

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Re: Phrasing
Reply #11 on: June 23, 2004, 11:50:50 PM
the phrase is good, perhaps you should give attention to the regularity.
On the technique to use, I can't say anything

Offline Antnee

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Re: Help with Appassionata
Reply #12 on: June 24, 2004, 02:43:36 AM
Oh and Goalevan...
I've been playing for about a year and a half...
Been working on the piece for a couple of months now..(4)

-Tony-
"The trouble with music appreciation in general is that people are taught to have too much respect for music they should be taught to love it instead." -  Stravinsky

Offline littlechopin

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Re: Help with Appassionata
Reply #13 on: June 24, 2004, 06:51:55 PM
Sorry, what is the meaning "I've been playing for about a year and a half..."?

Offline Antnee

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Re: Help with Appassionata
Reply #14 on: June 24, 2004, 06:57:46 PM
What do you mean??

Goalevan aske me how long I have been playing piano and I answered him... One year and a half...  :-/

-Tony-
"The trouble with music appreciation in general is that people are taught to have too much respect for music they should be taught to love it instead." -  Stravinsky
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