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Offline mcdiddy1

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The most powerful Beethoven piano sonata
« on: August 05, 2009, 04:04:44 PM »
What do you feel is the most powerful Beethoven Piano Sonata ?

For me I love the grand Waldstein Piano Sonata because it is very lyrical nad is swarming with enthusiastic themes. I also love the great strenght and energy it requires. I also love movement three of the Moonlight sonata which i find is very exciting and melancoly

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Re: e most powerful Beethoven piano sonata
«Reply #1 on: August 05, 2009, 04:48:51 PM »
I believe that the last three sonatas are his most powerful. I won't say which of the three is most powerful, for I believe that is extremely subjective, but I know that they are head and shoulders above the rest in terms of power.

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Re: e most powerful Beethoven piano sonata
«Reply #2 on: August 05, 2009, 04:59:58 PM »
For me, the most emotionally powerful is the sonata in E minor op.90. I also think the sonata op.28 is emotionally strong.
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Re: e most powerful Beethoven piano sonata
«Reply #3 on: August 05, 2009, 05:02:01 PM »
I have a soft spot for op.78 in F-sharp major. I agree with the previous posts as well, even though I think all of the last 6 are equally as strong.
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Re: e most powerful Beethoven piano sonata
«Reply #4 on: August 05, 2009, 05:23:58 PM »
For me, the most emotionally powerful is the sonata in E minor op.90.

Really? I played that work, and while it is very powerful, it still doesn't measure up to the last three.

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Re: e most powerful Beethoven piano sonata
«Reply #5 on: August 05, 2009, 07:36:05 PM »
Really? I played that work, and while it is very powerful, it still doesn't measure up to the last three.

by power does he mean emotionally or in strength?

anyway, I usually do not emotionally connect with Beethoven's music that much, but I do with op.90 which is why I had nominated it.
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Re: e most powerful Beethoven piano sonata
«Reply #6 on: August 05, 2009, 11:55:17 PM »
op 57, op 31 2.  surprised that nobody has suggested either of these.

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Re: e most powerful Beethoven piano sonata
«Reply #7 on: August 06, 2009, 01:27:05 AM »
My opinion is the last three.  btw, which recs of the last three are the best?  I haven't listened to any of them for over at year I think.

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Re: e most powerful Beethoven piano sonata
«Reply #8 on: August 06, 2009, 03:00:11 AM »
I have some bootlegs of Hamelin which are, believe it or not, really good. Charles Rosen also has some good recordings of the late ones. There are many others I like but that don't come to mind.

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Re: e most powerful Beethoven piano sonata
«Reply #9 on: August 06, 2009, 11:45:25 AM »
I have some bootlegs of Hamelin which are, believe it or not, really good. Charles Rosen also has some good recordings of the late ones. There are many others I like but that don't come to mind.

Have you heard Feltsman's recording of op.101 and op.106? he plays both of them very very well. Even Richter could not do a better job.
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Re: e most powerful Beethoven piano sonata
«Reply #10 on: August 06, 2009, 03:55:40 PM »
Yes, I have, and I didn't care for them at all. As a matter of fact, I don't think I have ever cared for any of Feltsman's recordings. You aren't the first one to recommend them to me, either.

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Re: e most powerful Beethoven piano sonata
«Reply #11 on: August 06, 2009, 04:00:33 PM »
Really? I thought he held the Hammerklavier together perfectly which is hard to do and it and his op.101 had such energy and musicality. What do you think of Gould's Beethoven?
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Re: e most powerful Beethoven piano sonata
«Reply #12 on: August 06, 2009, 11:55:00 PM »
Yes, I have, and I didn't care for them at all. As a matter of fact, I don't think I have ever cared for any of Feltsman's recordings. You aren't the first one to recommend them to me, either.

I agree with Communist, to me Feltsman's Beethoven (and frankly a lot of what he plays) is over the top to me. I'm curious as to why you feel this way although you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
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Re: e most powerful Beethoven piano sonata
«Reply #13 on: August 08, 2009, 03:46:34 AM »
I have a soft spot for op.78 in F-sharp major.
I've never thought of it as the 'most powerful', unless of course we're referring to the powerful genius behind its conception.  But having played this piece at uni, I can vouch that the second movement was one of the most extraordinarily difficult things I ever tried to memorize. 

Otherwise, it would seem to me that overall, the Op. 106 is one of Beethoven's most powerful compositions, regardless of medium.