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njalli

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I was wondering. I have played Liebestraum wich is a 8+ piece and Chopin Etude op 10 no 3 wich is a 8 piece, i was wondering because i really like the chopin barcarolle, its rated at 8 difficaulty, i was wondering if it isnt hard? I mean do you think i could play it or..?

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Re: barcarolle op 60

Reply #1 on: August 19, 2009, 10:58:34 PM

Try it and see for yourself. You know your skill better than anyone. Maybe you should try Chopin etudes op.25/6 since the barcarolle has a thirds trill (it is not that hard and not that long though). If you play those pieces *well* then your are ready musically.

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njalli

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Re: barcarolle op 60

Reply #2 on: August 20, 2009, 12:22:17 AM

thanks, im going to ask my teacher soon

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Re: barcarolle op 60

Reply #3 on: August 20, 2009, 02:14:37 AM

Mechanically speaking, the thirds in the Barcarolle are negligible. The true difficulty is in the peroration, when the left hand has several bars of the underlying barcarolle rhythm in full, 4-5 note chords, jumping all over the keyboard, on each eighth note. It's very difficult, and I seriously doubt that Chopin op.10 no.3, which only has parallel sixths, is going to help you with that passage.

That being said one should always try to play the pieces one loves. But one should also be honest and ask whether one is going to waste one's teacher's time by doing so in a lesson.

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Re: barcarolle op 60

Reply #4 on: August 22, 2009, 06:54:54 AM

Quote from: ramseytheii on August 20, 2009, 02:14:37 AM

The true difficulty is in the peroration, when the left hand has several bars of the underlying barcarolle rhythm in full, 4-5 note chords, jumping all over the keyboard, on each eighth note. It's very difficult, and I seriously doubt that Chopin op.10 no.3, which only has parallel sixths, is going to help you with that passage.

There is are similar LH passages in the Nocturne Op 48/1. I remember spending much time on those last two pages of the Nocturne.

Op 27/2 may also give you a warm up for thirds.

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Re: barcarolle op 60

Reply #5 on: August 22, 2009, 11:38:45 AM

The thirds aren't even a real issue. As long as you can learn them slowly enough they're so short that speed can be improved. Ramseytheii is correct. That plus making the piece sing are the hardest parts.

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