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Offline loonbohol

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Problem in making my first Youtube Video.
on: October 27, 2009, 01:58:00 AM
I have been boggled by this very difficult problem.

If I have a hard problem making MIDI orchestration.

The worst problem I'll ever have is making my first piano performance in Youtube and present it to Pianostreet to prove it once and for all.

I already have a good technique for my piano playnig but every time I am being filmed, I make a mistake  (really obvious).

If I am not being filmed, I don't make a mistake.
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Offline aslanov

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Re: Problem in making my first Youtube Video.
Reply #1 on: October 27, 2009, 03:54:48 AM
its called performance anxiety. deal with it
and who cares if u make a mistake, its not like ur making a studio recording.

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Re: Problem in making my first Youtube Video.
Reply #2 on: October 27, 2009, 12:16:44 PM
don't care about that, just upload your song!

i think you are not alone with that problem!!!
by the way, sorry for my bad english, but I'm a typical german, who has to study a lot speaking a foreign language, I'm open for betterings everytime!

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Re: Problem in making my first Youtube Video.
Reply #3 on: October 27, 2009, 02:05:16 PM
I think we are being spoiled rotten with these edited-to-perfection recordings that are coming out.  Just look a couple decades back to recordings, you will hear that performers were not afraid to release material that had mistakes on them.  To much sterilization also works its way through to the music as well - you may have recorded a note perfect take, but ask yourself if the music suffered as well.

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Re: Problem in making my first Youtube Video.
Reply #4 on: October 27, 2009, 06:04:28 PM
I think we are being spoiled rotten with these edited-to-perfection recordings that are coming out. 

Agreed, but i would replace "spoiled rotten" with "bored senseless"

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Re: Problem in making my first Youtube Video.
Reply #5 on: October 27, 2009, 07:18:07 PM
Agreed, but i would replace "spoiled rotten" with "bored senseless"

Thal

Well, I wouldn't. Some of us like to hear the music with the notes intact. Plenty can be done with the integrity of the composition kept intact.

Offline loonbohol

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Re: Problem in making my first Youtube Video.
Reply #6 on: October 28, 2009, 03:56:00 AM
Well, I wouldn't. Some of us like to hear the music with the notes intact. Plenty can be done with the integrity of the composition kept intact.

my problem is that, I might be a fast learner but I lack exposure to piano performance.
Wen Yu Shen made a lot of mistakes in his performance but it is not much obvious.
My mistakes are obvious and would pause me for a second or two.
That is another case.
I will not stop performing even if I make a note mistake until I make a really bad move.

I think we are being spoiled rotten with these edited-to-perfection recordings that are coming out.  Just look a couple decades back to recordings, you will hear that performers were not afraid to release material that had mistakes on them.  To much sterilization also works its way through to the music as well - you may have recorded a note perfect take, but ask yourself if the music suffered as well.



What is sterilization?

BTW, I once saw a video that was cut.
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Re: Problem in making my first Youtube Video.
Reply #8 on: October 28, 2009, 05:48:38 PM
This my first post and its a relief in a way to know others out there have the same problem as me.

I have been playing a number of years and recently played a Chopin Nocturne at a concert.  I practised and practised and got it right...I thought.... until the performance where I lost my way completely half way through and just came to a complete halt..   This was so utterly embarrasing I don't feel confident to do the next one next month.  Perhaps we as pianists, especially in the classics do try too hard to be perfect hence the anxiety!!!!  I think I'm just going to approach it in the frame of mind that- Yes there will be some mistakes, just make the best of it!!

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Re: Problem in making my first Youtube Video.
Reply #9 on: October 28, 2009, 08:32:24 PM
In addition of all what has been said, don't forget that recordings (contrary to live performance) allows you -not only to try a lot of takes- but to cut and paste fragments from different takes.
Some might call it a dirty trick, but it's not difficult to do (seamlessly) with a basic audio editor, it can save your day (specially with long pieces) and, some of the big guys have done it ( Glenn Gould among them, IIRC).
I've done this in some of my (very amateurish) guitar recordings in Youtube, and have not regretted it, so far  :)
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Re: Problem in making my first Youtube Video.
Reply #10 on: December 02, 2009, 09:46:05 PM
Record yourself while practicing.  Not only does that alleviate nervousness in front of the camera, you can review your posture, etc while practicing.

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Re: Problem in making my first Youtube Video.
Reply #11 on: January 03, 2010, 12:34:04 PM
As a veteran of many YouTube videos ( PSearPianist channel ), I recommend that you do several takes of each piece, and choose the best.  You can also edit your footage with inexpensive software.  I use an old version of Cyberlink PowerDirector, and that enables me to do cuts to a precision of 4 frames (which is equivalent to about 1/7 second at 30 fps, which is OK for most purposes).  Digitally splicing together parts of different takes removes the stress from recording long pieces and coping with difficult page turns etc.

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Re: Problem in making my first Youtube Video.
Reply #12 on: January 03, 2010, 06:52:40 PM
All very good ideas.

Another trick that might work is to keep the camera "rolling" and play the piece again. It could be the ritual of starting the "take" that causes the problems. This might not work so well with really long pieces.

Of course you can edit, cut and paste. It may be cheaper time wise to do the piece over and over during the same take.
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Re: Problem in making my first Youtube Video.
Reply #13 on: January 04, 2010, 12:22:31 AM
That is a very good point Oxy60.  Sometimes the very thought of having to get up and stop and start the camera causes tension - but the downside for me of long takes is the reviewing and cutting out the unwanted bits.  That can be a slow process if you have an older computer.

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Re: Problem in making my first Youtube Video.
Reply #14 on: January 04, 2010, 12:30:53 AM
If you're recording a video purely for upload to youtube and doing it in your own time (rather than in a concert situation) I would suggest: switch on the camera, then do whatever you usually do to warm up i.e. scales, arpeggios, improvisation etc and only then move to the piece you're intending to record. Hopefully by that point you will be much more relaxed and may only be peripherally aware that the camera is running.
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Re: Problem in making my first Youtube Video.
Reply #15 on: January 04, 2010, 03:09:05 AM
Why not record something that is not too tough for you. That way even if you get nervous while recording the piece, it wouldn't be too hard for you to consciously think about your notes and keep yourself on track. The problem is if you have everything you play in your muscular memory you may indeed make mistakes as  you get nervous.

A good thing to do when recording yourself is to never stop, just play through your mistakes, this is good training for playing for a public audience as well. When we practice we often do not put ourself in pressure situations, that is, if we make a mistake it is no big deal, just repeat and its corrected, but in a performance you cannot do this unless you want to annoy your audience! But again, please record yourself playing pieces that are not too hard for yourself to play, play something that is routine and you will be fine! Play things that are at your level or which challenge you increases the risk of error due to nerves.
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