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f0bul0us

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Pieces with "Black key" glissandos.
on: July 01, 2004, 12:22:52 AM
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Re: Pieces with "Black key" glissandos.
Reply #1 on: July 01, 2004, 12:29:43 AM
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Re: Pieces with "Black key" glissandos.
Reply #2 on: July 01, 2004, 01:10:11 AM
De Falla - Danza del Terror
Maybe I wasn't doing right, but it had a RH descending gliss and it hurt to play!
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Re: Pieces with "Black key" glissandos.
Reply #3 on: July 01, 2004, 01:21:33 AM
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De Falla - Danza del Terror
Maybe I wasn't doing right, but it had a RH descending gliss and it hurt to play!

Aim your hand to the left, and hit the notes with your thumbnail! ;D

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Re: Pieces with "Black key" glissandos.
Reply #4 on: July 05, 2004, 12:13:44 AM
I dont know about the rest of you, but Ive found that I play black key glissandos better if I play them with a flat hand (with my palm).
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Re: Pieces with "Black key" glissandos.
Reply #5 on: July 05, 2004, 05:49:05 AM
I tried my thumbnail, and maybe I still wasn't doing something right, but I would tear it up along the cuticle.  I do have very small hands, so I could never do it and not just hit it with my thumbnail.
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Re: Pieces with "Black key" glissandos.
Reply #6 on: July 18, 2004, 09:52:27 AM
Try them with the other side of your fingers... your hand facing down, and your fingers flat.
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Re: Pieces with "Black key" glissandos.
Reply #7 on: July 18, 2004, 06:47:43 PM
Yeah I've found that for white-key glissandos the thumbnail works best, and for black key ones the other side of the thumb (the fleshy side) works best, and without any pain.
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Re: Pieces with "Black key" glissandos.
Reply #8 on: July 18, 2004, 07:15:56 PM
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De Falla - Danza del Terror
Maybe I wasn't doing right, but it had a RH descending gliss and it hurt to play!


This was the first piece I thought of. Anyone have the sheet music?

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Re: Pieces with "Black key" glissandos.
Reply #9 on: July 18, 2004, 09:25:06 PM
The only place I  could ever find was to buy the entire El Amor Brujo - vocal score, published by Chester Music.  And of course, Danza del Terror is included.  The book cost me $28.     :(       I used it for a competition.  If you can find a sheet music download, that would probably be whole lot better!
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Re: Pieces with "Black key" glissandos.
Reply #10 on: July 26, 2004, 07:08:53 AM
Also Ravel's Jeux deau and Ondine have black key glissandos (in jeux deau it is a rapid downward glissando - I play it with the back of the tips of my left hand fingers, in Ondine it is a slow rising glissando divided between the hands- I actually "finger" the left hand part of the glissando because it is slow enough and also because it is awkward for me to actually glissando with my left hand in the low register)

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Re: Pieces with "Black key" glissandos.
Reply #11 on: July 26, 2004, 09:41:37 PM
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I dont know about the rest of you, but Ive found that I play black key glissandos better if I play them with a flat hand (with my palm).


I use the back of my hand

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Re: Pieces with "Black key" glissandos.
Reply #12 on: July 28, 2004, 06:29:46 PM
LISTEN TO NEWSGROUPEUAN! When playing Black note Glissandos use the backs of your hands or you will damage your thumbnails and fingers. A good link is:-

https://www.sibeliusmusic.com/cgi-bin/show_score.pl?scoreid=10908

go to the last page of the score and there are tips on how to play glissandos.

Hope this Helps

Will
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