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I'm new to the piano.
on: November 23, 2009, 03:49:52 AM
Hi,

I'm new to the piano and would like some proper direction as to go about learning classical piano.

I don't really know a lot; I've been playing (not really, more like sitting with) it for the last 3 months.
I do know all the keys, and I know what notes are present in almost every scale(thanks to my guitar lessons.) I can't play all the scales, but I'm fairly good with E, B, C, D, G. Maybe also F. Don't know what the correct fingering would be.

I'm willing to work hard. I listen to Beethoven's sonatas mostly. Other than that, I listen to a big assorted collection of other classical composers.

I started by learning Beethoven's 14th sonata Op. 27 mvt. 1. I'm only halfway done with it(my parents are sick of hearing it), so I bought some headphones.

I am not taking any form of lessons.

So could you help me out? Any kind of help would be appreciated. 

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Re: I'm new to the piano.
Reply #1 on: November 23, 2009, 04:25:36 AM
I forgot to mention also that I am not so very good with keeping time and play notes beyond the eight.

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Re: I'm new to the piano.
Reply #2 on: November 23, 2009, 08:15:40 AM
Sick of hearing Moonlight sonata?Too bad

Anyway,if your not taking lessons,you can get some tips by searching threads by using the Search function,type in whatever you want,"moonlight sonata" , "scales" ..etc
for images/vedio go to youtube.

op.27 no.1 is a bit far from your ability,but it is very good to study hard pieces.If you like classic then you will also like playing piano,passion is as important as working hard.        

Buy a metronome

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Re: I'm new to the piano.
Reply #3 on: November 24, 2009, 01:28:48 AM
If you are a beginner, I think you could download in this forum the "Fundamental Principles of the Leschetizky Method" by Marie Prentner . Although being a "intuitive" method, you may learn in this book some very important and indispensable technique principles for a good performance. After this, you may download another important book, "Fundamentals of piano practice", by Chuan Chang, downloaded free at www.pianopractice.org/, where you may learn a counter intuitive method with all of its advantages.But a teacher would be the best...
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Re: I'm new to the piano.
Reply #4 on: November 24, 2009, 05:30:41 AM
To be able to give correct advice, I would need to know your age and see what you know.
However, based on what you wrote, I would suggest you get the Faber books of studies. Even though you played guitar, I would recommend you start with Faber Primer. Each level(primer,1A,1B and so forth) comes with 3 books: lesson, theory, performance. There are extra books per level such as Christmas book.

Besides the above, I would also recommend the Hannon Technical book. Not only for the technical exercises, but mostly for the scales.

And finally, I would suggest to find a piano teacher to guide you.

Hope the above helps
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Reply #5 on: November 24, 2009, 03:57:48 PM
I thank you all for such quick and intuitive replies. But, I must say, I cannot afford to hire a piano teacher and also the gold membership. I thank you nonetheless.

The website www.pianopractice.org is a big benison.

Thank you.

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Reply #6 on: November 24, 2009, 04:22:55 PM
Also to make things clear, I am not sick of playing the moonlight sonata. I'm madly in love with it.
But my parents are tired of hearing it being played over and over again. So, due to that cause, I bought some headphones. I love Beethoven's works. I shalll take the advice that was given into deep consideration.

Thank you once again.

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Re: I'm new to the piano.
Reply #7 on: November 29, 2009, 02:17:25 AM
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I am not so very good with keeping time and play notes beyond the eight.

You need to learn to practice with a metronome. Since you don't have a teacher to force you, you will have to learn this discipline yourself. But do it! 

Search google for "online metronome".

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Reply #8 on: December 10, 2009, 05:21:35 PM
Maybe it would be in your best interests to ask around and find a teacher who is proefficient at classical study. The teacher should be fairly accomplished, and very adaptable to your specific needs and how you learn best. Since you are just starting out it is important to get a good sense of fundamental technique. Some good technique books for beginners are the alfreds and michael aaron basic piano libraries/courses. They take you through the different hand positions and you can learn your scales and various technique. Start with major and minor scales (one octave ) in first year introductory. Then You can get started in the Royal Conservatory program.(piano odessey is good) It is great for increasing your classical capabilities. you can take your introductory grade, then grade 1, and so forth. I'm sure with practice and dedication you'll go far in your classical studies! :D
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Re: I'm new to the piano.
Reply #9 on: December 10, 2009, 05:31:23 PM
Also to make things clear, I am not sick of playing the moonlight sonata. I'm madly in love with it.
But my parents are tired of hearing it being played over and over again. So, due to that cause, I bought some headphones. I love Beethoven's works. I shalll take the advice that was given into deep consideration.

Thank you once again.

Yes I must agree some of Beethoven's works are fascinating.I too am in love with the moonlight sonata.  There is a nice version of the moonlight sonata in the Lila Fletcher Piano Book.(it's an easier version) The music in her book is very nice and it is great for building technique. :D I hope all goes well for you.
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Re: I'm new to the piano.
Reply #10 on: December 10, 2009, 05:34:39 PM
I thank you all for such quick and intuitive replies. But, I must say, I cannot afford to hire a piano teacher and also the gold membership. I thank you nonetheless.

The website www.pianopractice.org is a big benison.

Thank you.

Maybe try taking online tutorials, or trying to teach yourself some things by ear, they also have online piano lessons that you can take to improve your playing ability.
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Re: I'm new to the piano.
Reply #11 on: December 11, 2009, 11:31:04 PM
The Moonlight Sonata is a beautiful piece of music, but for now, you should slow down and really start with an affordable beginners book. By playing advanced pieces, you are skipping so many important lessons that it will shoot back heavily on you sooner or later. And the longer you wait, the more painful it will be to learn the very basics. And frankly speaking, I am not 100% sure if your post isn't a nasty joke. From a teacher's point of view, your approach to piano playing is a horrible nightmare and you got that to the point even more with your second post. However there are a lot of people, who actually start this way, though usually with little success only...
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