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Offline Bob

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What is it about some composers you don't like?
on: December 17, 2009, 12:59:31 AM
What aspects? 
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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #1 on: December 17, 2009, 04:58:41 PM
I don't like CPE Bach. Tinkle, tinkle, tinkle, it reminds me of Muzak. I can just hear all the card players with their whist in the murmuring in the background.  Mozart wrote a lot of the same stuff, but he has about 10 greatest hits that are really melodic, so I except those.  There are a lot of seventeenth century tinkle tinkle composers that I never learned the names of because I hate it so bad.  They play a lot of classic "muzak" between 10 and 11 in the morning and 2 and 3 in the afternoon on FM stations.  I suppose the supporters (read store owners) like that stuff in the background because it doesn't interfere with conversation. 

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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #2 on: December 17, 2009, 05:54:16 PM
I don't like CPE Bach. Tinkle, tinkle, tinkle, it reminds me of Muzak.

I always thought it was more tinkle trill trill tinkle tinkle trill tinkle trill trill.

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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #3 on: December 17, 2009, 07:10:02 PM
Mozart's sonatas bother me, because there isn't anything new in them; unlike Haydn's. I love all of them though. Such elegance! My fingers have become addicted to K. 330.

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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #4 on: December 17, 2009, 10:14:35 PM
Mozart's sonatas bother me.

They don't bother me, but some do bore me.

I prefer Eberl, Clementi, Dussek & Woelfl.

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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #5 on: December 20, 2009, 07:51:47 AM
I don't like Mozart particularly well as a composer because his music all sounds the same to me.
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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #6 on: December 20, 2009, 01:28:59 PM
Cliche, trite and unoriginal music annoys me. And I don't like music that has no emotion or has fake, superficial emotion.
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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #7 on: December 31, 2009, 06:43:04 PM
I don't like Alberti bass or a sense of humor in music.

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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #8 on: January 03, 2010, 08:03:15 PM
Alberti bass kind of annoys me (except in the Grieg Sonata, in which I think it actually sounds great!).

Mozart, and all of those little scaly, trilly, 'tinkle tinkle trill' things people mentioned earlier, kind of get on my nerves.  Mozart has a lot of great stuff, but a big chunk of it is just boring to listen to!

Sometimes, in some of Liszt's stuff, I find the octaves a bit out of the blue.  They usually sound great, but in some of his stuff, it comes on a bit too strong.

I hate Phillip Glass because of those god awful etudes he released...



...seriously, an etude?!

Interested in discussing:

-Prokofiev Toccata
-Scriabin Sonata 2

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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #9 on: January 03, 2010, 08:18:35 PM
I hate Phillip Glass because of those god awful etudes he released...



...seriously, an etude?!

That's only the tip of the iceberg. His orchestral and ensemble works are also godawful and some sound like they could have been composed by a first year theory student.

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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #10 on: January 03, 2010, 10:12:13 PM
That was my impression; I've only heard a small bit of his stuff, but it seems like he takes the same 2 or 3 chords, and prolongs it sometimes over 10 minutes... this sounds like stuff that I could improvise with little effort.
Interested in discussing:

-Prokofiev Toccata
-Scriabin Sonata 2

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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #11 on: January 04, 2010, 04:16:48 AM
...seriously, an etude?!

It helps develop the pianist's patience, and also the listener's! :D

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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #12 on: January 04, 2010, 02:09:33 PM
 I dislike music like Mozarts music, some of it, which seems like the same thing for 5 minutes, it's a little bit too happy, I prefer stuff like Rachmaninoff's Prelude 2, or Chopin's Etudes.

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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #13 on: January 04, 2010, 04:29:17 PM
Schumann was a terrible talentless teutonic turd.

I cannot stand restrained romanticism.

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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #14 on: January 04, 2010, 10:54:21 PM
Chopin doesn't bother me, but I don't like his music. It is so boring.

Especially the ballads! I lose interest after about a minute. I guess most people find something in them, but I don't. :(

Actually, his music does bother me; when it is played badly. Hahah. But then all music that is badly played bothers me. :-X

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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #15 on: January 08, 2010, 12:46:23 PM
Mozart, because his music doesn't express anything to me.
Beethoven, for the same reason plus he's dull sometimes.
Chopin, because his pieces sometimes beg me to be emotional to the point of being pathetic.
Liszt, because he drowns his point in a sea of nonsense.

So a fairly ordinary list i guess, the usual suspects. There are others too, but not worth elaborating. In fact i always felt like 99% of all music is not really worthwhile, so i judge by the 1% brilliance i can find.
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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #16 on: January 10, 2010, 09:14:38 AM
Beethoven: I found his residence but he has yet to reply to of my letters, despite my sending of the first one years ago.

Meanwhile, no matter how loudly I berate him Scriabin simply refuses to finish his Mysterium. His current condition is just an excuse; I'm sure he can compose just fine when he gets up.
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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #17 on: January 10, 2010, 09:50:29 AM
Beethoven: I found his residence but he has yet to reply to of my letters, despite my sending of the first one years ago.

Meanwhile, no matter how loudly I berate him Scriabin simply refuses to finish his Mysterium. His current condition is just an excuse; I'm sure he can compose just fine when he gets up.

And good grief, how long is it going to take Bruckner to complete the finale of his 9th? I've given up on Berg and gone to Cerha's ending of Lulu...and is Mahler lazy or what? Leaving others to do the dirty work on the 10th...
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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #18 on: January 10, 2010, 10:30:19 AM
Beethoven: I found his residence but he has yet to reply to of my letters, despite my sending of the first one years ago.

Probably another bloody postal strike.

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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #19 on: January 10, 2010, 06:54:07 PM
Mozart, because his music doesn't express anything to me.
Beethoven, for the same reason plus he's dull sometimes.
Chopin, because his pieces sometimes beg me to be emotional to the point of being pathetic.
Liszt, because he drowns his point in a sea of nonsense.

Wow, you've pretty much hit all of the pillars of the repertoire! Who do you like? Clementi? Hanon?  Weber?  :)

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Re: What is it about some composers you don't like?
Reply #20 on: January 11, 2010, 10:19:45 AM
Wow, you've pretty much hit all of the pillars of the repertoire! Who do you like? Clementi? Hanon?  Weber?  :)
I go more by piece and style than by composer, but I like the flemish composers and their masses, ockeghem, josquin; palestrina for his style, from the baroque era bach, then scriabin and to a limited extent rachmaninoff. But there's barely a famous composer who doesn't have a couple of good pieces.
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