Name that Tune (Sheet Music Edition)

[tsaij]

No. 2

this is feldman's palais de mari. don't recognize any of the others...

[richard black]

That Feldman is a classic example of silly notation that should have been corrected by an editor. Bar 7 (and following) - dotted quarter-notes with a (6:5) bracket over? Why not two quarters and a simple (2) bracket over them? It's just pretentious.

[retrouvailles]

this is feldman's palais de mari. don't recognize any of the others...

Correct.

That Feldman is a classic example of silly notation that should have been corrected by an editor. Bar 7 (and following) - dotted quarter-notes with a (6:5) bracket over? Why not two quarters and a simple (2) bracket over them? It's just pretentious.

Two quarters with a 2 bracket over them doesn't make any sense, as far as I see. It would work if it were a 6/8 or a 3/4 bar, but not in a 5/8 bar. I guess you could argue it if that 2 bracket were to really be a 2:2.5 bar, which looks even more ridiculous than a 6:5 bracket. I don't see anything wrong with the 6:5 bracket, for he wants 6 eighth notes in the time of 5, so it makes perfect sense to me.

[mephisto]

Could you give some info about 4,6 and 7? I assume no. 4 is a romantic piece and the two others are from the 20th century. Maybe you could say from wich nationality the composers are.

[retrouvailles]

Could you give some info about 4,6 and 7? I assume no. 4 is a romantic piece and the two others are from the 20th century. Maybe you could say from wich nationality the composers are.

4 is not a romantic piece. Yes, the other two are from the 20th century. I will say that the composer of 4 is very famous. The composer of 6 is also very famous, but is known better as a performer. The composer of 7 is British and is well known for being both a great pianist (who has recorded both his own works and other works) and a great composer.

[communist]

No.7 is Darknesse Visible by Thomas Ades.

[retrouvailles]

No.7 is Darknesse Visible by Thomas Ades.

Correct.

[alpacinator1]

1 .
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[nanabush]

(2) is Gnomenreigen
(3) is l'Escalier du Diable... I knew at sight it was ligeti, but so much of his stuff has those percussive double notes, so I just flipped through his scores until I found the passage haha

[alpacinator1]

Both right. Nice job! Now what about the first one?

[prongated]

No. 4

Mozart's Fantasie in c minor KV396, middle section. Well, whether it's Mozart's is dubious isn't it?

...so btw, no one wants to guess the chamber piece I posted? It's nowhere near as obscure as the Hair you know

[retrouvailles]

Mozart's Fantasie in c minor KV396, middle section. Well, whether it's Mozart's is dubious isn't it?

...so btw, no one wants to guess the chamber piece I posted? It's nowhere near as obscure as the Hair you know

Correct on the Mozart. And no, I don't know what chamber piece that is.

[retrouvailles]

So, no one really knows No. 6? Another big hint: he was in the news very recently. And this piece is a transcription of sorts. If you audiate the music on the page (I picked a good spot for that), you can find out what it is rather easily, I think.

[stevebob]

So, no one really knows No. 6? Another big hint: he was in the news very recently. And this piece is a transcription of sorts. If you audiate the music on the page (I picked a good spot for that), you can find out what it is rather easily, I think.

Got it!  Earl Wild's Fantasy on Gershwin's Porgy & Bess.

[retrouvailles]

Got it!  Earl Wild's Fantasy on Gershwin's Porgy & Bess.

Correct! Well, that round didn't take that long. I'll have more, but audio this time, in the other thread.

[prongated]

Hehe you know, you're not that far off...

...it's Graham Hair's Wild Cherries and Honeycomb. It's the compulsory piece for the Scottish International Piano Comp. in 1998. It's been recorded by Michael Kieran Harvey if you're interested. No-one got it within the time span I specified, so no recording [well, maybe one day in the audition room ^^]

A little more of the composer here: https://www.n-ism.org/People/graham.php
And the piece is actually part of his set of Transcendental Etudes, which is strangely named "Harmonice Mundi" in that website (and the score's available there too!)

Btw...recording is up in the audition room! Specifically, here; https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=36233.0

[kay3087]

I'll play. Two pieces, the second a concerto.

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[retrouvailles]

I'll play. Two pieces, the second a concerto.

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They don't work. Why not use a place like www.photobucket.com rather than that place? Also, it would help to wrap [img] tags around them for convenience.

[kay3087]

Strange, they work for me. imageshack would not load a minute ago. I re-uploaded them:

[retrouvailles]

No. 2 is Rautavaara's Piano Concerto No. 1. The first one looks familiar-ish.

[prongated]

No. 1 is the opening to "Abschied" from Schumann's Waldszenen. Absolutely GORGEOUS piece.

[kay3087]

Correct and correct. Both pieces are gorgeous! And I recommend people listen to that concerto (if you haven't heard it yet). It is one of the gems of the Concerto repertoire of the last 50 years (in my opinion;—obviously I haven't heard as many concertos as someone like Thal) Beautiful use of tone clusters, if such a thing can be said!

[furtwaengler]

Beautiful use of tone clusters, if such a thing can be said!

Of course it can be said! And Rautavaara has written much music which holds a certain type of beauty. Some of it I like.

[thalbergmad]

At least one person here should get this, considering this was composed by his teacher.

Thal

[retrouvailles]

I personally have no clue. It just looks like a transitional section within a piano concerto. I assume your hint is aimed at Alistair Hinton. Am I correct?

[thalbergmad]

Yes old chap

[mephisto]

At least one person here should get this, considering this was composed by his teacher.

Thal

Isnt that the Delius piano concerto?

[retrouvailles]

Isnt that the Delius piano concerto?

Haha, Alistair Hinton is not that old. Delius died in 1934, before Alistair was born I believe.

Alistair's bio on the Sorabji Archive says that he studied with Humphrey Searle, and that piano concerto looks a bit too tame and conservative to have come from his pen, not that Searle was a radical composer. Maybe he studied with someone else in addition...

[ahinton]

I don't think that Thal necessarily means quite what you might think him to mean here. It is true(sp.) that I studied with Searle and this is neither his piano conceto nor Delius's. Now, supposing I were to suggest (dropping what I suppose might therefore turn out to be another hint) that this was not composed by anyone with whom I studied?...

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

It is true(sp.) that I studied with Searle and this is neither his piano conceto nor Delius's.

It is actually.

D minor, Op.5

Thal

[thalbergmad]

I suspect this is another obscure romantic piano concerto you picked up in your travels. What is it? Doesn't look familiar to me.

Forgot to answer this, it is Hulstone.

Immediately jumps into my top ten British Concerti. Astoundingly beautiful music.

Thal

[retrouvailles]

Forgot to answer this, it is Hulstone.

You mean Hurlstone? Again, this is not someone that Alistair could have studied with, given that he died in 1906. I can't say I am a huge fan of his music, but it is nice.

[thalbergmad]

Indeed, Hurlstone. Too much wine with dinner today.

I did not suggest he studied with Hinty, albeit he went to the the same college.

Thal

[retrouvailles]

I did not suggest he studied with Hinty, albeit he went to the the same college.

At least one person here should get this, considering this was composed by his teacher.

Perhaps a bit too much wine...

[thalbergmad]

Perhaps it is you that has had too much booze, since the second comment was placed under the Searle and not the Hurlstone.

Thal

[ahinton]

Indeed, Hurlstone. Too much wine with dinner today.

I did not suggest he studied with Hinty, albeit he went to the the same college.

Still too much wine, methinks; of course you didn't suggest that Hurlstone studied with me (I'd have had to be exceedingly ancient for that to have been any kind of possibility!) but you did appear to imply that I studied with him (albeit while and because you were apparently confusing Hurl with Searlestone at the time). I hope nevertheless that the wine was enjoyable; what was it?

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

but you did appear to imply that I studied with him (albeit while and because you were apparently confusing Hurl with Searlestone at the time).

Where did i imply??

I made no comments when i posted the Hurlstone sheet.

hic

Thal

[furtwaengler]

I think people are confused. Let's see if I can get this right.
THIS is the Hurlstone, in which our mad Thal made no claims of Mr. Hinton's personal involvement:

And then this must be Humphrey Searle, or surely Searle wasn't Mr. Hinton's only teacher (I don't know the piece)?

At least one person here should get this, considering this was composed by his teacher.

Thal

(BTW, those Grieg Variations of Alistair Hinton are very beautiful. I'd love to hear more of his compositions!)

[thalbergmad]

THANK YOU SO MUCH

[retrouvailles]

Well, it was a bit confusing, in my defense. That is the nature of the internet sometimes.

[thalbergmad]

Indeed old chap.

I was confused meself.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

[georgecziffra]

No idea, looks like something by Stockhausen.

Here's an easy one:

[georgecziffra]

Hmm, that was a lot bigger than I expected it to be.

[retrouvailles]

Judging by the distinctive beaming, it looks like Elliott Carter's Piano Concerto, one I'd really like to get my hands on.

Judging by the engraving, and a quick check, that's the opening of Michael Finnissy's English Country Tunes.

[thalbergmad]

Well done old boy.

You is indeed very good at this.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

Elliott Carter's Piano Concerto, one I'd really like to get my hands on.

You are more than welcome to it, as it is of no interest to me. I only bought it as it was cheap.

I was gonna file it in my "20th Century American Bollox Box" next to Carpenter, but i have no great desire to posess it.

Thal

[ahinton]

You are more than welcome to it, as it is of no interest to me. I only bought it as it was cheap.

I was gonna file it in my "20th Century American Bollox Box" next to Carpenter, but i have no great desire to posess it.

"Possess" has two "s"s, just as Elliott Carter has two "t"s in his forename.

Pedantry over.

I have to admit that I couldn't get on with that piece for a long time until I heard it a few years ago played by the excellent Nicolas Hodges and conducted by the equally excellent Oliver Knussen...

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

Elliott Carter has two "t"s in his forename.

Really, i did not know that.

I cannot remember you mentioning it before.

Thal

[ahinton]

Really, i did not know that.

I cannot remember you mentioning it before.

Must be too much wine again, affecting the Thaliban memory (or is it the last of those weekly 10 pints of the other suff, perhaps?). My mentioning it on this occasion was plainly as a parallel to the matter of your typing of "possess" without one of its "s"s. In any case, all that was, as surely you realised, incidental to my point about my long-term inability to grasp much of Elliott Carter's Piano Concerto until hearing the performance of it to which I referred. Just as it is inadvisable to judge a book by its covers, it can also be potentially misleading to judge a piano concerto by its performance/s.

Best,

Alistair