Name that Tune (Sheet Music Edition)

[retrouvailles]

1 is Couperin... I don't remember the title. Is it Les barricades mysterieuses? 3 is Tchaikovsky's sonata.

Correct on both! Those were the easiest ones, I think. Any guesses for the others?

[tea cup]

Give me a hint for 2. I think it's the only other one I remember seeing before, but I can't seem to recall even the composer's name now.

[retrouvailles]

Give me a hint for 2. I think it's the only other one I remember seeing before, but I can't seem to recall even the composer's name now.

No. 2 is by a Jewish composer.

[perfect_pitch]

No. 2 looks like a work by Mendlessohn???

No. 3 looks like a Chopin Polonaise???

[retrouvailles]

2 is a work by Mendelssohn. 3 was already guessed correctly as the Tchaikovsky Sonata in G major, so not a Chopin Polonaise.

No guesses for the others? I would only expect people to have difficulty on the last one, heh, but not all people.

[quantum]

No.2 Mendelssohn Fantasy in F# minor?

[retrouvailles]

No.2 Mendelssohn Fantasy in F# minor?

Correct! Now, what are the other 4? Come on, they aren't that hard.

A hint: the nationalities of the composers (in random order) are British, Norwegian, Australian, and Russian. Also, ALL of these pieces have been mentioned on Pianostreet numerous times, so some of you definitely know them.

[john11inc]

I know the last two but I'll hold off and see if someone else gets them first.  4/5 though, I dunno.  Is one of them Tviett?  I mean, I really can't think of a Norwegian piano piece/piano concerto that gets talked about much, but I remember Tviett being one of those random, monthly fad composers on here.  I'm not even going to bother trying to get the other one; it's probably some random thing by Obuhov or something ridiculous D:  Actually, if I was going to wildly guess I'd say Medtner, just because you like him so much, but I don't know his music well enough.

[retrouvailles]

Very good. There is one there by Medtner and one there by Tveitt, who aren't just "fad" composers, but are genuinely good composers, despite their conservatism. Like I said, not everyone has to be groundbreaking to be good.

[john11inc]

Very good. There is one there by Medtner and one there by Tveitt, who aren't just "fad" composers, but are genuinely good composers, despite their conservatism. Like I said, not everyone has to be groundbreaking to be good.

Calm down there, chief.  I didn't say Medtner was a fad composer anywhere, and all I said was that Tveitt was a "fad" on here for a couple months, because you said this piece was something that people talk about a lot.  People don't talk about Tviett a lot (except for those few months way back when, when people first discovered him on here).

You should start reading what I actually write before getting so worked up.  You're going to pop a blood vessel or something.


Either way, No. 4 is, apparently, one of Medtner's Piano Concerti, and No. 5 is Tveitt's... sonata?

[retrouvailles]

Either way, No. 4 is, apparently, one of Medtner's Piano Concerti, and No. 5 is Tveitt's... sonata?

Correct on both. Now, which ones?

[john11inc]

Correct on both. Now, which ones?

On the Tveitt it must be the Sonata No. 2, since apparently that's the only one that survived, unless you are wayyyyyyyyy better at finding sheet music than I think (and I think you're pretty good).

Medtner... I dunno.  His are in Em and Cm, and that section is Ebm, and Ebm/GbM don't really have anything to do with Em/Cm.  So, I have no idea.  From that little bit of information, I'd just assume it's not the Em one and one of the Cm ones (vaguely makes more sense harmonically).  But, unfortunately, that still leaves two x:  From that I'd guess No. 1, because I remember that being a better piece than No. 2 (imo), and why would you upload an inferior piece?

So, it's probably No. 3 and I am just being a retard again D:  But no, I'll guess No. 1

[retrouvailles]

Wrong on both.

You know, I'm kinda surprised you don't know the last one. It seems right up your alley.

[pies]

a

[tea cup]

4 is Medtner Op. 25 No. 2. I had to look for it.

I only like the first sonata in the "sonata triade" and Op. 5. It is such a shame there aren't more recordings of his music. Particularly the sonatas.

EDIT: Err... Nevermind. It is the second concerto?

[retrouvailles]

No. 7: Flynn Trinity?

Which part?

EDIT: Err... Nevermind. It is the second concerto?

Nope.

[tea cup]

Ah, I found it. It's the third. The picture is from the transcription for four hands.

[retrouvailles]

Ah, I found it. It's the third. The picture is from the transcription for four hands.

Correct! Now that just leaves 5, 6, and 7, two of which have clues. Does no one know 6? I know a lot of people here have played it, because I've seen various people mention that they were playing it.

[tea cup]

Is 6 an Ives piece?

[retrouvailles]

Is 6 an Ives piece?

Nope. It was written well after his death. And the composer is not American.

[furtwaengler]

Medtner's 3rd Concerto...I'm really a little surprised. I thought there'd been a lot of discussion on it (relatively) recently.

[prongated]

Correct! Now, what are the other 4? Come on, they aren't that hard.

A hint: the nationalities of the composers (in random order) are British, Norwegian, Australian, and Russian. Also, ALL of these pieces have been mentioned on Pianostreet numerous times, so some of you definitely know them.

What, did you put in an excerpt from the 3rd Carl Vine piano sonata as no. 6?

[retrouvailles]

What, did you put in an excerpt from the 3rd Carl Vine piano sonata as no. 6?

Nope, although I did think about it. It isn't even Vine. Vine is close, though.

And yes, it is Medtner's 3rd Concerto.

Also, I should say that part of the reason for some of the obscurity here is for purposes of exposure, so that people get to learn about new, great pieces they haven't heard about before.

[retrouvailles]

Do you all want more hints (or more pictures)? It seems that I might have been a little too unspecific possibly.

[prongated]

Nope, although I did think about it. It isn't even Vine. Vine is close, though.

Haha it's just a wild guess since I remember you know about it. And more samples may be useful! Is that 6th one the one by an Australian composer? If so, I feel duly obliged to get that one right!

[retrouvailles]

Haha it's just a wild guess since I remember you know about it. And more samples may be useful! Is that 6th one the one by an Australian composer? If so, I feel duly obliged to get that one right!

Yes, it is by an Australian composer. You should know it. From what I understand, its a very popular piece among young Australians.

[prongated]

Yes, it is by an Australian composer. You should know it. From what I understand, its a very popular piece among young Australians.

...hmm I don't know any other Australian composition that is popular with young Australians aside from Carl Vine's...I know someone who plays Sitsky's "Figured in the drift of stars" at where you are, but the score doesn't look like it...some more excerpts perhaps?

[retrouvailles]

...hmm I don't know any other Australian composition that is popular with young Australians aside from Carl Vine's...I know someone who plays Sitsky's "Figured in the drift of stars" at where you are, but the score doesn't look like it...some more excerpts perhaps?

Well, this composer is more respected and older than Sitsky is, so, really, every young Australian pianist should know who he is. The piece in question is a very short multi-movement movement work (not a sonata). Here is a sample from another movement. Reminder, this is No. 6. No. 5 and 7 still need to be guessed correctly (but already have some correct traits to them, it's just small details).

[prongated]

Oh, that's a lot of clues...!

...so no. 6 is Peter Sculthorpe, Night Pieces...?! The first excerpt is from no. 5, and the second excerpt is from no...3?

A really nice work, although I am a bit surprised you know it. Really, I thought the only internationally known Australian composer is Carl Vine. And maybe Graham Hair and Sitsky are breaking into the scene as well. Miriam Hyde and Sculthorpe are just generally regarded as not as exciting I think. I have actually never heard the Sculthorpe performed in any competition in Australia...whatever short time I spent there.

As for the other excerpts...umm...

[retrouvailles]

Correct! Actually, I know quite a bit about Australian music, despite not being Australian or even living there. I've done a lot of research into the subject and have even played some of it. I've also done some research into New Zealand's music, on a related subject.

The others, 5 and 7, already have some traits that have been guessed correctly:
5 is a sonata by Geirr Tveitt, but which number?
7 is George Flynn's Trinity, but which part?

[mikey6]

Sculthorpe is probably Australia's most respected composer but certainly not the most liked! 
Hyde is probably the most popular amongst younger Aussies as it's 'easier' listening. She was an amazing pianist so I've heard and Valley of Rocks is a good piece.
I would think Bret Dean is making the most waves atm seeing as his stuff from what I hear is actually good. 

[retrouvailles]

I have never had a taste for Hyde, Sutherland, or any of those other "easy listening" older Australian females, personally. I can almost throw Kats-Chernin into that mix, but she has a bit of a sense of humor. And yes, I also really like Brett Dean. I saw his two piano pieces performed last year and they were certainly something to behold. He also has some great orchestral works.

[pies]

The "Trinity" excerpt has to be from "Wound".  Second movement I think.
I will try to post my own samples soon.

[retrouvailles]

The "Trinity" excerpt has to be from "Wound".  Second movement I think.
I will try to post my own samples soon.

Correct! Now for someone to identify No. 5 correctly, which is a sonata by Geirr Tveitt, but what number? This should not be this hard if you know who this composer was.

[prongated]

Correct! Actually, I know quite a bit about Australian music, despite not being Australian or even living there. I've done a lot of research into the subject and have even played some of it. I've also done some research into New Zealand's music, on a related subject.

Yay! And yeah I know...you're still at Colburn (Pre-Conservatory)? Anyway...wow, I should wonder how you find contemporary Australian compositions when stacked up against the rest of the world? Because usually I never get tired of saying how there's barely any good music there - and it is generally the accepted consensus among young music students there too.

Sculthorpe is probably Australia's most respected composer but certainly not the most liked!
Hyde is probably the most popular amongst younger Aussies as it's 'easier' listening.

...really? Well, I suppose "most respected" is a subjective term, but the most renowned and reputable is surely Carl Vine!? And amongst younger Aussies, I'm sure the most played solo piece is Carl Vine's Five Bagatelles (the most-played Australian work in the local competitions I've been to in Sydney), the most adored being Matthew Hindson's "Moments of Plastic Jubilation"

I would think Bret Dean is making the most waves atm seeing as his stuff from what I hear is actually good. 

Wow...never heard of him...maybe one of these days...too bad the AMC is now too far for me to reach...and lol about his works being "actually good"! It's not very often that Australian composers (well, usually only from 1 or 2 persons maybe?) write something good huh?

[retrouvailles]

Yay! And yeah I know...you're still at Colburn (Pre-Conservatory)?

Nope, I've been at USC for 2 and a half years now and just take lessons there in the summer. Actually, I'm looking for another school at the moment (not satisfied with USC), but I won't get into that.

Anyway...wow, I should wonder how you find contemporary Australian compositions when stacked up against the rest of the world? Because usually I never get tired of saying how there's barely any good music there - and it is generally the accepted consensus among young music students there too.

Well, I would think that once you discover just how much music there is out there, Australia is just another country with respectable composers. Among circles here, Australian composers actually are quite heard of and get some playing time here, but its a lot of "easy listening" Americans that get played, like one would expect. I don't think anyone here has heard of the "easy listening" Australians, for that matter.

...really? Well, I suppose "most respected" is a subjective term, but the most renowned and reputable is surely Carl Vine!? And amongst younger Aussies, I'm sure the most played solo piece is Carl Vine's Five Bagatelles (the most-played Australian work in the local competitions I've been to in Sydney), the most adored being Matthew Hindson's "Moments of Plastic Jubilation"

I don't think the latter work has been played here, but Carl Vine's Bagatelles have. Interesting note, though: Maurice Hindson's Plastic Jubilation for piano and tape (NOT Moments of Plastic Jubilation for solo piano) has been played here some times.

[prongated]

Nope, I've been at USC for 2 and a half years now and just take lessons there in the summer. Actually, I'm looking for another school at the moment (not satisfied with USC), but I won't get into that.

Oh, that means you're usually buried in piles of paperworks and essays, and not enough time to practise right? I know people who is studying there presently, and those that have left, and their stories...

I don't think the latter work has been played here, but Carl Vine's Bagatelles have. Interesting note, though: Maurice Hindson's Plastic Jubilation for piano and tape (NOT Moments of Plastic Jubilation for solo piano) has been played here some times.

Oh, Maurice Hinson the musicologist (or at least, editor of some Alfred Masterworks music editions)? Well, Matthew Hindson (teaches music in a Sydney high school, the last time I checked) is a self-proclaimed infuser of classical and heavy metal music, so this piece is pretty bombastic and a really good way to have a good bash at (or just to bash) the piano!

[retrouvailles]

Oh, Maurice Hinson the musicologist (or at least, editor of some Alfred Masterworks music editions)? Well, Matthew Hindson (teaches music in a Sydney high school, the last time I checked) is a self-proclaimed infuser of classical and heavy metal music, so this piece is pretty bombastic and a really good way to have a good bash at (or just to bash) the piano!

Haha, I've made that mistake a few times. I didn't mean Maurice Hinson, but Matthew Hindson, who I know very well about.

[edwardweiss]

Is the Tveitt work Sonata No.29, 'Sonata Etere', Op.129? I thought I sort of recognised it but I haven't looked at it or played it through for about 30 years.. My copy is somewhere in the attic. The dedication was to the French pianist Genevieve Joy if I remember correctly.

[retrouvailles]

Is the Tveitt work Sonata No.29, 'Sonata Etere', Op.129? I thought I sort of recognised it but I haven't looked at it or played it through for about 30 years.. My copy is somewhere in the attic. The dedication was to the French pianist Genevieve Joy if I remember correctly.

Correct! The excerpt is from the 3rd movement. That concludes my second round. Anyone up for a third round by me? Or does anyone have their own challenges?

[tea cup]

Here are some. They shouldn't be too hard. But retro said the Grieg was hard, so I don't know. My sheet music folder doesn't have anything too astonishing in it though, hah. So, in no order:

[rob47]

Teacup i have no idea, but made a bunch to post here before seeing yours sorry

goes from easiest to hardest kind of

1.


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4.


5.


6.

[tea cup]

No worries! The more pieces the better.

Is 4 a Mompou piece?

[perfect_pitch]

No. 5 looks like it could be a Scarlatti Sonata in A Major???

[retrouvailles]

tea cup - No. 3 is from the 3rd movt of Hummel's sonata in f sharp minor. The others look familiar, but I'm not sure. You're definitely a tricky fellow though. Hints?

da rob - No. 1 is Ravel's Tzigane for violin and piano. No. 2 is Ligeti's Hungarian Rock for harpsichord (that's not a piano piece!). No. 5 is Manuel Infante's El Vito. No. 6 is Franck's Les Djinns. Not too sure about the others, but why so much non-piano (solo) music? Hints?

[tea cup]

Correct on No. 3! Here are hints for the others.

Variations
Czech composer
sister
helped compose FAE sonata

[rob47]

hints

#3 - famous piece by a famous composer who was not famous for solo piano compositions at all
#4 - no clue for you

[retrouvailles]

da rob - No. 4 is Elliott Carter's Night Fantasies. I really don't know how you expected anyone to get that. I just *happened* to look at that randomly and checked the measure numbers. I really don't have much of an idea for the 3rd.

Correct on No. 3! Here are hints for the others.

Variations
Czech composer
sister
helped compose FAE sonata

A bit unspecific and unclear (especially the last one, which I don't know what to make of), so no guesses from me.

[tsaij]

da rob - No. 4 is Elliott Carter's Night Fantasies. I really don't know how you expected anyone to get that.

that was the only one i recognized right away, actually. the manuscript is pretty much instantly identifiable if you've seen the score (is it in carter's own hand, does anyone know?), along with the texture, harmonies, etc. recognized the ligeti at second glance, but none of the rest..

[mikey6]

Rob's 3 is the 1st mov of Strauss' Violin Sonata.  Amazing piece (which I've played  ) and dam tricky!