Name that Tune (Sheet Music Edition)

[john11inc]

Same as the other, although instead of posting snippets of a recording, post a few measures of the piece.  I put these in order of easiest to most difficult, although I should note that none of these are especially "impossible"; all well-known composers, although the last one is a piece that I doubt anyone is familiar with, making it extra-tricky.  But the writing is pretty iconoclastic to his style, so if you bang it out on the piano you can probably figure it out.


No. 1:



No. 2:



No. 3:



No. 4:



No. 5:



No. 6

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Is No. 3 a Scriabin piece?

[john11inc]

Is No. 3 a Scriabin piece?

It certainly could be   All the minor 2nds should be the biggest clue.

[thalbergmad]

I am hopeless at these, my sight reading must be improved.

Thal

[pies]

a

[perfect_pitch]

I'm going to guess that No. 1 is by Liszt... possibly a Hungarian Rhapsody or Paganini etude???

No. 2 looks like a Haydn Sonata, or possibly clementi (really late classical, very early romantic)

[ronde_des_sylphes]

No. 1 is near the end of the second Liszt Ballade.

[retrouvailles]

No. 4 is the last movement of the Hindemith Suite "1922", the ragtime movement. Still working on the others.

[tea cup]

It certainly could be   All the minor 2nds should be the biggest clue.

Aha!

I played it. It must be Vers la Flamme! Is it?

[tea cup]

No. 5 must be another Russian composer... It looks like Mosolov.

[lontano]

Aha!

I played it. It must be Vers la Flamme! Is it?

#1 looks like Liszt, or nearly any Romantic era bravura work.
#2 looks very familiar. Wild guess would be a 20th c. work in Baroque-ish style, maybe Shostakovich??
#3 certainly is Vers la flamme.
#5 reminds me of Medtner.
#6 does look like a Rzewski "Road" manuscript, but there are so many of them how would one know who hasn't studied them all (and I hardly know that anyone but the composer may have played them).

[john11inc]

No. 1- Liszt Ballade No. 2
No. 3- Scriabin Vers la Flamme
No. 4- Hindemith 1922 Suite


These are the only ones successfully named.

No. 6 is by Rzewski, but it is not from The Road.
No. 5 is not Russian.
No. 2 is not by Clementi, Haydn or Shostakovich (wut?), nor was it written in the 20th Century/Romantic Era.  I'm really surprised nobody has figured this one out yet, much less not even gotten the composer.

[john11inc]

Another section from No. 5:



And from No. 6:

[retrouvailles]

No. 5 is the Dutilleux piano sonata.

[john11inc]

No. 5 is the Dutilleux piano sonata.

Yup D:

Also, seriously, you can't get No. 2?  If you even just play the first measure you will realize who the composer is, at least =P  And the notation should make it obvious what type of piece it is.

[retrouvailles]

No. 6 is Rzewski's 5th Ballade "It Makes a Long Time Man Feel Bad".

In all fairness, for No. 2,  you picked what is probably the codetta from the exposition (or possibly the recapitulation) of a sonata, which doesn't always contain anything related to the themes within the exposition, so there isn't really anything defining in said section, making it very difficult to guess what it is from, given that many codettas are very similar. My guess is that it is something by Mozart. Now, to go through the sheetmusic...

[john11inc]

Ahahahaha.

I think it's pretty hilarious that an unrecorded piece by Rzewski got figured out before a piece by Mozart (Mozart is correct).  However, it's not part of any exposition, although, in a way, it is a recapitulo  


That should probably be taken as a hint.  Another being that it's probably his most difficult piece (contrary to popular belief that the last sonata is the most difficult).  At least in my opinion.

[retrouvailles]

It's not hilarious to me, given that music from the 20th century is FAR more distinctively written (arguably) than a great bit of classical music, which is very textbooky compared to pretty much anything written in the last 50 years. It's the reason why many of these were so easy to all of us.

Anyways, still looking...

EDIT: After a LOT of looking, No. 2 is Mozart's 9 Variations on a Minuet by Duport. That part is from the 3rd variation. How is that in any way a recapitulation (to fix your spelling)?

[john11inc]

EDIT: After a LOT of looking, No. 2 is Mozart's 9 Variations on a Minuet by Duport. That part is from the 3rd variation. How is that in any way a recapitulation (to fix your spelling)?

Definition: (music) the section of a composition or movement (especially in sonata form) in which musical themes that were introduced earlier are repeated

I think a variation qualifies.  I said it was a hint, and I said it was, "in a way", a recapitulation.  It was meant to be a hint.  Sorry you didn't get it.

Recapitulo is an archaic form of the word "recapitulation".  Which is English.  Recapitulo is not.  It's not used much any more, but that doesn't make it less of a word.  You think I would accidentally change five letters into one?

Also, why so angrrrrrrry?  Smile!

[retrouvailles]

Recapitulations are only found in works that are in sonata form, not works that use a theme and variations. That was my point. Also, you wouldn't find a recapitulation a 3rd of the way through a piece. Review your theory books, buddy.

I'm done arguing. I think I'll post a few examples for you all. I'll be sure to include some that are, um, more interesting, heh.

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Here's one until someone posts some more. It's not that hard.

[retrouvailles]

Yeah, I have no idea about that one. Any hints?

[tea cup]

It was composed in 1861.

[retrouvailles]

Hmm, still doesn't tell me much. Any other hints possible, such as nationality, piece genre, or anything a bit more helpful than just year of composition? I don't always pay attention to composition dates (it seems to be a bit more pertinent in more recent compositions, for people don't use opus numbers much nowadays).

[tea cup]

It is his first opus. He's considered a "nationalist" composer by most literature.

[retrouvailles]

Ok, got it. It's the 4th of Grieg's 4 Piano Pieces, Op. 1. How was that one easy? I would be willing to bet that that work is one of his least played, and I don't think that many of his early works contain any of his trademark nationalism. Very, very tricky that was.

[tea cup]

Haha. I guess it wasn't, sorry! Well, the music looks very characteristic of his style I think. At least for me it does (I went through a Grieg phase not too long ago).

[john11inc]

Recapitulations are only found in works that are in sonata form.

I only have one thing to say to that:

Review your theory books, buddy.

Although I probably wouldn't use "buddy".

[john11inc]

[retrouvailles]

Dammit, and I was going to post my set. Well, I can only identify one of those right now. The third one from the bottom is Takemitsu's Corona (I think). The rest I don't know, and don't have much of a clue.

Also:

I only have one thing to say to that:


Although I probably wouldn't use "buddy".

Ok, some people can argue that recaps can be found in works that are in ternary form and other similar forms, but absolutely not in works in variation form.

[john11inc]

Dammit, and I was going to post my set. Well, I can only identify one of those right now. The third one from the bottom is Takemitsu's Corona (I think). The rest I don't know.

It is Takemitsu's Corona.  There's still a ton of graphic stuff to post for fun; I'm too lazy to post any more, so you're safe.  Actually, I'll scan a few that I know aren't online anywhere that are cool.

Ok, some people can argue that recaps can be found in works that are in ternary form and other similar forms, but absolutely not in works in variation form.

Also fugal forms.


Anyway, like I said, this is all irrelevant (and I believe I already noted this?) as I said I never meant my comment about it being sort of like a recapitulation to mean it is a recapitulation.

[retrouvailles]

Ok, then I'll go ahead and post my set. I have posted them in the order that they were written, and I tried to cover all major periods. There is one chamber music piece there, and one is taken from a piano concerto (a part where the piano plays alone). These are all by well-known composers, so these shouldn't be too hard. I'll post a harder set later if people get these quickly.

No. 1


No. 2


No. 3


No. 4


No. 5


No. 6


EDIT: There was an order error, which I just fixed.

[john11inc]

No. 1 is the fugue from the toccata BWV914.  4 and 5 look really familiar, but I'm too lazy to run back and forth between the computer and the piano.

[jbmorel78]

#6 is from the first movement of Carl Vine's 1st Piano Sonata

[richard black]

2 is by Beethoven but I can't think what it is....

4 is the trio from Brahms's Op.25 piano quartet - do I get brownie points for identifying the Breitkopf edition? (possibly in a Dover reprint).

[john11inc]

4 is the trio from Brahms's Op.25 piano quartet - do I get brownie points for identifying the Breitkopf edition? (possibly in a Dover reprint).

I assume you meant No. 3?  No. 4 is Copland's Piano Concerto.


Also, No. 5 is annoying me.  I played it back and it sounds like Ligeti, but... it's sort of not.  Arg I think it's Ligeti and I'm just being retarded.

And, that's BAD.  I have never played that Bach piece or the Copland piece, but I have played the Vine, and I didn't get that one lol.  Although I hadn't tried to play it yet *blames it on that*.

[retrouvailles]

Wow, I picked some easy ones this time around, I guess.

1 is the fugue from Bach's e minor toccata
3 is the trio from that Brahms quartet. It isn't a Dover reprint. It is the Breitkopf edition.
4 is the beginning of the 2nd movt of the Copland Piano Concerto.
6 is from the first movement of the Vine 1st piano sonata.

Some hints for the others:

2 is Beethoven. Think about smaller compositions.
5 is not Ligeti, and is nothing like his music.

[john11inc]

No. 2 is the Bagatellen Op. 126


No. 5 is killing me   Is it Prokofiev?

[retrouvailles]

2 is correct. It's from that set of Bagatelles.

5 is not Prokofiev. Hint: this composer was influenced by neo-classicism and such composers as Hindemith at the time he wrote this piece. I'll also say that I'll be disappointed if Alistair doesn't get this one, heh.

[tsaij]

no. 5 is from the slow(er) thematic group of the first movement of carter's piano sonata. =)

[retrouvailles]

Very good! Well, that completes my first go at this game. I'll come up with some other ones which are much harder now.

[tea cup]

I don't recognize any of john's.

[tea cup]

Wild guess... Sciarrino Nocturne?

[john11inc]

Wild guess... Sciarrino Nocturne?

No.  I didn't really post those to be correctly guessed; more like pretty examples of sheet music.  It's a piece by Joel-Francois Durand.

[john11inc]

no. 5 is from the slow(er) thematic group of the first movement of carter's piano sonata. =)

Yeah, I never would have gotten that.  That piece is literally one of my least-favorite piano works of all time

[retrouvailles]

Yeah, I never would have gotten that.  That piece is literally one of my least-favorite piano works of all time

Haha, I still love the work, even though it's immature Carter. I don't know how anyone could hate the work, honestly. Thal, who I am sure has not heard the work yet, even has no excuse to not like it.

[tsaij]

I don't recognize any of john's.

rameau, though i can't remember the title... love his music.

[retrouvailles]

Here is my next set. Again, posted in order of composition. The pieces are less well known, but not off the beaten path, really. I was going to post something that hasn't been recorded yet, but I'm not that mean.

No. 1


No. 2


No. 3


No. 4


No. 5


No. 6


No. 7

[tea cup]

1 is Couperin... I don't remember the title. Is it Les barricades mysterieuses? 3 is Tchaikovsky's sonata.

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rameau, though i can't remember the title... love his music.

Correct.

It's Les tendres plaintes. A beautiful piece!