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Vexations - Was Igor Levit's Lonely Stroll Too Long?
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on: July 10, 2004, 08:20:54 AM
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Re: 'Did He Win?' from Shine soundtrack
Reply #1 on: July 10, 2004, 08:40:44 AM
I dont have the CD, so I cant really relate to the music...but are you refering to the music in the scene when he is walking home from the competition with his father, jumping the hopscotch, and Margaret says "he lost" while she is sitting in the tree?

if that is what you were refering to, I know what you are talking about.  
It isnt a well known piece of music--> just something made for the movie.

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Reply #2 on: July 10, 2004, 08:28:22 PM
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Re: 'Did He Win?' from Shine soundtrack
Reply #3 on: July 10, 2004, 08:55:07 PM
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I haven't seen the movie yet - I can't find it.
All I have is the soundtrack

:o :o :o SEE THE MOVIE!!!!! IT WILL CHANGE YOUR VIEW ON PIANO FOREVER!!!!

another great movie is "The Piano"

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Re: 'Did He Win?' from Shine soundtrack
Reply #4 on: July 11, 2004, 01:28:27 AM
I agree with Donjuan, this movie is just GREAT, i saw it very often since i have it  :P . It made me know the rach 3, and rachmaninoff in general, wich one i did'nt knew very well before this. Seriously this movie his great! And this is a true story, and it's David Helfgott who plays allmost all of the pieces in the movie. He's really a great pianist ! Well all this to say : SEE THE MOVIE !  ;D

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Re: 'Did He Win?' from Shine soundtrack
Reply #5 on: July 11, 2004, 03:39:21 AM
According to the Reliable Source of Information (tm) - the Internet - the movie has a lot of fictional elements and twists.

David didn't collapse at the piano.
David's father and he didn't have such a vile relationship. (according to his sister)
David Helfgott has been said (by critics) to be the worst artist ever having been granted the title of musical genius (in classical music world?).

Anyways, its a good movie.

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Re: 'Did He Win?' from Shine soundtrack
Reply #6 on: July 11, 2004, 04:22:21 AM
Well, i have listened to some regordings of him. Un sospiro (liszt) comes to mind. I like his interpretation. And yes i know that the movie has many wrong things in, but do one true story movie does not? And critics are opinions, not real things.  :P

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Re: 'Did He Win?' from Shine soundtrack
Reply #7 on: July 11, 2004, 06:11:34 AM
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critics are opinions, not real things.  :P

I hate critics! they ruin everything!!!  I dont see why I should consider their opinion on something any more valid than a dog's opinion

still, Shine has some inconsistencies explained by sister Margaret in her book, subtitled "...and the myth of Shine"

https://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0446523836/qid%3D1089515381/701-7942745-2616354

check it out!

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Re: 'Did He Win?' from Shine soundtrack
Reply #8 on: July 11, 2004, 07:25:21 AM
well...one sister says the family was nice and happy, the other sister says the movie was perfectly accurate in portraying the father.

???

i do agree that david plays somewhat erattically now, but listen to one of his "childhood" recordings (say the mozart concerti at age 14) and you realise that his "poor" playing is really only from his breakdown.  his pre-breakdown performances are really quite amazing- he WAS a spectacular pianist.  
What it all comes down to is that one does not play the piano with one’s fingers; one plays the piano with one’s mind.-  Glenn Gould

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Re: 'Did He Win?' from Shine soundtrack
Reply #9 on: July 11, 2004, 09:12:14 AM
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I hate critics! they ruin everything!!!  I dont see why I should consider their opinion on something any more valid than a dog's opinion


I can't say that critics are useless.  Most of them are fairly well trained in music (at least the famous critics are), and they serve the important purpose of separating the good music from the crap.  They may not always correct, but there are so many movies/CDs that are put out all the time, that it's helpful to know which ones are most worth checking out.  It's easier (and cheaper) to consult the critics for general recommendations than to buy every CD and make your own judgments.

But, critics are often wrong because their knowledge of music is based on education rather than innate understanding.  They're often also purists, and not very open to hearing "new" interpretations.

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