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Offline sjeon

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beethoven sonatas
« on: June 05, 2010, 12:07:43 PM »
I've played mozart sonata k.310, chopin prelude no.16 and learning the Rach moment musical no.4. Now I'm trying to get started on beethoven sonatas. Which one should I play?

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Offline liordavid

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Re: beethoven sonatas
«Reply #1 on: June 05, 2010, 11:49:12 PM »
opus 54

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Re: beethoven sonatas
«Reply #2 on: June 06, 2010, 04:28:39 PM »
I suppose you'll have to play most (if not all) of them at some point, so it really depends on what you are looking for. If you want a Classical-ish sonata, maybe op. 10 no. 3 or op. 2 no. 3. Die Jagd (op. 32 no. 3) is also very popular nowadays. From the later sonatas, op. 90 is always great, and 109/110 might be easier to tackle before 111.

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Re: beethoven sonatas
«Reply #3 on: June 06, 2010, 04:29:34 PM »
correction of my typo... Die Jagd is op. 31 no. 3

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Re: beethoven sonatas
«Reply #4 on: June 08, 2010, 06:04:43 PM »
well there's 32 of them, and they all have their own characteristics...but I don't think I'd start with op 54--it's really not the best in my opinion, and just doesn't sound all that good, especially compared to the two great sonatas on either side of it chronologically (waldstein and appasionata).

there's multiple other threads here about the relative difficulties of the various sonatas.  use the search button (between help and profile immediately above "piano board."

  I suggest you start with one of the "easier" ones such as op 14 or 49, and then branch out to some of the well-known sonatas such as the Pathetique (op 13), Moonlight (27 #2), or the Pastoral (op 28).

I do like 31 #3...that's one that could certainly use more exposure.

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Re: beethoven sonatas
«Reply #5 on: June 11, 2010, 03:58:27 PM »
I think
you can start with the Pathetique sonata or No.1.
There are not "easy" sonatas but the Pathetique is a good piece to feel Beethoven.

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Beethoven sonata no.30 op.109
Beethoven 32 variations WoO.80
Chopin Ballade No.1
Chopin Scherzo No.2
Schumann Abegg Variations

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Re: beethoven sonatas
«Reply #6 on: July 12, 2010, 09:28:18 AM »
I know there will be people that disagrees with me but, op14 no1 1st movement isnt as easy as everyone says it is, ive mastered it and it needs so much colour and texture, also it is very unpianistic, as though beethoven was meant to write it for the string quartet

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Re: beethoven sonatas
«Reply #7 on: July 21, 2010, 07:57:45 PM »
waldstein or appassionata

Offline amelialw

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Re: beethoven sonatas
«Reply #8 on: July 22, 2010, 11:31:44 AM »
Don't start off with waldstein or appassionata...

There are some which are really fun to learn and play among his earlier ones. Yes, people usually do start of with op.14 or 49...

If you want something harder, any of these: op.2 no.1/2 op.10 no.1/2

the 4th mvt of op.2 no.2 is not easy. Op.2 no.3 is quite challenging, same for op.10 no.3....i definately enjoyed learning those alot though :)
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Offline wert718

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Re: beethoven sonatas
«Reply #9 on: July 23, 2010, 03:00:07 PM »
I learned the following as my first three:

Op. 2 No. 3 (Sonata No. 3 in C)
Op. 10 No. 2 (Sonata No.6 in F)
Op. 13 (Sonata No. 8 in c)
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Re: beethoven sonatas
«Reply #10 on: July 25, 2010, 12:06:21 AM »
You know, there are actually 35 piano sonatas of Beethoven. For a change, you could try one of the three WoO piano sonatas. (I think they're not quite as difficult as most of his other piano sonatas, too.) The score may be harder to find, but Barry Cooper's new edition has all 35! Cooper's edition is the best for Beethoven, I think.

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Re: beethoven sonatas
«Reply #11 on: July 25, 2010, 04:33:43 AM »
I'd go for the shorter(but still quite challenging sonatas):
op.54, 78 and 90 :D
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Re: beethoven sonatas
«Reply #12 on: July 25, 2010, 12:23:46 PM »
I'd go for the shorter(but still quite challenging sonatas):
op.54, 78 and 90 :D

Those are wonderful pieces. However, I think for someone's FIRST Beethoven sonata, it should be an early one. That's how many people start with Beethoven's sonatas.

Original post: Good luck with a Beethoven sonata! They are difficult, but very rewarding (and fun to play)!

Offline invictious

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Re: beethoven sonatas
«Reply #13 on: July 25, 2010, 11:46:49 PM »
Well the 'easier' sonatas would be F minor Op.2 no. 1, or C minor Op.10 No.1

After those I would take on an early 'named' sonata, such as Moonlight, Pathetique, or Pastoral, or whatever.

That should get you started.
Bach - Partita No.2
Scriabin - Etude 8/12
Debussy - L'isle Joyeuse
Liszt - Un Sospiro

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Re: beethoven sonatas
«Reply #14 on: July 26, 2010, 12:07:19 AM »
Go for the 'Hammerklavier' first (Op 106). It's a piece of cake!
Seriously, I'd go for A few of the earlier ones - Op 2 no 1, Op 10 No 1 or either of the Op14 Sonatas

If you want to get into any of the 'late' Sonatas, start with Op110

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Re: beethoven sonatas
«Reply #15 on: July 27, 2010, 11:35:00 AM »
For a change, you could try one of the three WoO piano sonatas.

Excellent idea.

I think Beethoven was about 25 years old when he wrote the Op.2 and therefore he was already a mature and fully developed artist.

Some of the WoO's can be used as a useful intro to his works before tackling the major sonatas.

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