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Offline avetma

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Rachmaninov - Prelude op.23 no.2 (Ante Vetma)
on: June 18, 2010, 12:37:24 AM
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Recorded live; February 2010.

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Offline rachfan

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Re: Rachmaninov - Prelude op.23 no.2 (Ante Vetma)
Reply #1 on: June 18, 2010, 08:48:59 PM
Hi avetma,

Bravo!  I believe you've given us a convincing rendition of the Prelude 23/2.  I've played half of Op. 23 and half of Op. 32, so know first hand how challenging some of these preludes can be. You obviously have a virtuosic technique, and play this piece with with majesty and flair.  You bring out not only its excitement, but also its lyricism and create many beautiful nuances along the way.  This is an artistic and inspiring performance in my opinion.  If I had to make one suggestion, it would be to start the piece more at f rather than ff to allow for more gradients in the dynamics further on.    
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Re: Rachmaninov - Prelude op.23 no.2 (Ante Vetma)
Reply #2 on: June 20, 2010, 01:16:51 AM
Very well played. The RH to me is better than the LH, in parts your LH tends to be suppressed where interesting details could be brought out instead of mumbling against the RH melody.
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Re: Rachmaninov - Prelude op.23 no.2 (Ante Vetma)
Reply #3 on: June 20, 2010, 10:28:45 AM
Nicely played. Only thing i can comment is to keep an eye on the voicing of your right hand, especially on the main theme. But good job.

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Re: Rachmaninov - Prelude op.23 no.2 (Ante Vetma)
Reply #4 on: June 20, 2010, 11:17:23 AM
ur concentrating too much on the 'virtuosic' elements of the piece.
the lyrical element is none existence in the beginning few bars...

however, u quickly caught up when the 'quiet section' appeared.

neverthesless, well played!.

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Re: Rachmaninov - Prelude op.23 no.2 (Ante Vetma)
Reply #5 on: June 21, 2010, 11:06:06 AM
Thank you! :)

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Re: Rachmaninov - Prelude op.23 no.2 (Ante Vetma)
Reply #6 on: June 22, 2010, 01:00:23 PM
This is by far the best performance I have heard presented to this forum. It is almost a sad irony that you have mastered (it appears - I had the music "low volume") the complexity of the challenging sections of this score, but albeit forgotten about the trivial detail. We are 2 peas in a pod. Who cares about the detail, when there are "big notes" to play lol?

I am certainly impressed by this performance, but I would love to hear some intrinsic detail. Could you present something simple like the Valse from Racmaninov's Moment Musicaux Op10 No.3? I would love to hear this one. It is my fave Rachmaninov piece and none better to play it than you, I'm sure:)
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Chopin Ballades (all)
Rachmaninov prelude in Bb Op 23 No 2
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Re: Rachmaninov - Prelude op.23 no.2 (Ante Vetma)
Reply #7 on: June 22, 2010, 02:09:11 PM
...but I would love to hear some intrinsic detail.

This coming from someone who doesn't know what the flying f#ck detail is in the first place???

Avetma - although I don't know the piece, It had a strong presence with boldness and some glimmering semiquaver right hand passages which just seemed to sparkle. I loved it - All I'd say is becareful with the transitions to the d minor passage in the 'A' section (0:20)... it seemed to detach the melodies and the transformation from the B flat section into the sinister sounding d minor...

I'd surprise us with the d minor melody, but without holding back the tempo or pausing.

But apart from that - It sounds brilliant. I hadn't heard of the piece before, but I'm glad I know of it now.

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Re: Rachmaninov - Prelude op.23 no.2 (Ante Vetma)
Reply #8 on: June 22, 2010, 03:17:25 PM
Slow_concert_pianist: I am not so interested in how you judge my technique, but my playing in general. So, if you think that I didn't paid much attention to details, then I think I failed. Unfortunatelly - there is no Rachmaninov 10/3 in my repertoire. If you are interested in something more delicate - I have posted Chopin 15/2 earlier to this forum:  https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=33776.0

perfect_pitch: I am glad you found this piece interesting. :) Thank you very much for your comment.

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Re: Rachmaninov - Prelude op.23 no.2 (Ante Vetma)
Reply #9 on: June 25, 2010, 08:21:09 AM
Awesome playing. I think you did really well overall, but maybe you sacrificed a little precision and clarity for speed.

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Re: Rachmaninov - Prelude op.23 no.2 (Ante Vetma)
Reply #10 on: June 25, 2010, 08:31:37 PM
You are right, I was kind of tired, because this was the last piece after an hour long recital. But there is no excuse, I know. :) Thank you!

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Re: Rachmaninov - Prelude op.23 no.2 (Ante Vetma)
Reply #11 on: July 01, 2010, 07:28:00 AM
My one criticism, Avetma, is your harsh tone.  In the second section your tone returns to a normal one.  That aside, you do a fine job with it.   
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Re: Rachmaninov - Prelude op.23 no.2 (Ante Vetma)
Reply #12 on: July 01, 2010, 10:50:34 AM
Yes, I am aware of that. But, unfortunatelly, there was no other way to get forte on that "Steinway B". ;D Thanks for your comment!
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