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Topic: How do you pronounce a BWV number?  (Read 9694 times)

Online lelle

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How do you pronounce a BWV number?
on: August 15, 2010, 05:43:35 PM
Since my native language is not english I have been wondering about this. Bach's pieces are numbered with BWV numbers, like BWV 543. But how would you pronounce this?

In Sweden we say each letter separately, and in addition we pronounce the "W" like a "V" and then we say the number like this:

Bee - vee - vee Fivehundredfortythree

Is it the same in english? Or is it

Bee - double-u - vee Fivehundredfortythree?

Bee - double-u - vee Five four three?

Which way is the correct way to say it? :)

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Re: How do you pronounce a BWV number?
Reply #1 on: August 15, 2010, 05:47:09 PM
I thought we said "Bach (with some throat sound) verk-uh versihkness"

Or juts click on the audio button on the right
https://www.dict.cc/?s=BWV


If I was saying the letters I would just say BWV -- "Bee, double U, Vee."



Just a relate thing I found...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BWV
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Re: How do you pronounce a BWV number?
Reply #2 on: August 15, 2010, 05:55:24 PM
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I thought we said "Bach (with some throat sound) verk-uh versihkness"

Or juts click on the audio button on the right
https://www.dict.cc/?s=BWV
So when you present a Bach work to the audience you say

"I'm going to play Prelude and Fugue in a-minor Bach verk-uh versihkness Fivehundredfortythree"

?

Offline retrouvailles

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Re: How do you pronounce a BWV number?
Reply #3 on: August 15, 2010, 05:57:51 PM
I always just say "B-W-V number", and that is how most of the musical community around me says it. No one goes through the trouble of saying Bach-Werke-Verzeichnis, similar to how everyone says "K number", instead of Köchel, when referring to Mozart's music.

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Re: How do you pronounce a BWV number?
Reply #4 on: August 15, 2010, 06:05:44 PM
Geez, you really learn something new everyday, here.  :)

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Re: How do you pronounce a BWV number?
Reply #5 on: August 15, 2010, 06:21:14 PM


Or juts click on the audio button on the right
https://www.dict.cc/?s=BWV


Haha that J.S.Bach sounds like "Jay is back"  ;D

Offline Bob

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Re: How do you pronounce a BWV number?
Reply #6 on: August 15, 2010, 09:11:26 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't take that computer pronunciation too literally.  It's fairly accurate though I think but I'm not a German expert.


I haven't heard people using BWV numbers too much.  If they are announcing a piece, I have heard people say, "I'm playing the c minor prelude and fugue from the Well-Tempered Clavier, Book 1."

Otherwise I would think saying the German Bach-Werke-Veshich#$%#@! or just BWV (Bee double u vee) is ok.
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Re: How do you pronounce a BWV number?
Reply #7 on: August 15, 2010, 10:27:05 PM
Or be-we-vao to show off
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Re: How do you pronounce a BWV number?
Reply #8 on: August 16, 2010, 12:13:31 PM
I wonder, who was the guy who arranged all the Bach pieces in BWV order?
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Re: How do you pronounce a BWV number?
Reply #9 on: August 16, 2010, 12:53:10 PM
"Wolfgang Schmieder assigned the BWV numbers in 1950, to indicate the work's placement in the Bach works catalogue titled Thematisch-systematisches Verzeichnis der musikalischen Werke von Johann Sebastian Bach (Thematic-systematic catalogue of musical works of Johann Sebastian Bach)."
~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BWV
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