project help and advice

[shas]

ok. I'v bin given an assignment for my second year A level progect. That is to compaire to like peices (ie string quartet to string quartet)  which have been writen a minimum of 100 years apart. I have chosen for my comparison and study to choos peices from Beethoven and Ravel.. we must do a detailed analysis and investigation of each peice and sumerise it all in a 2000 word esay. Also as a final sumary to our investigation we must compose a peice of at least 4 mins which is obviouly influenced by both composers on the same format/line up (ie string quartet).
When i first got this assignment I wanted to compair Beethovens emporers with a specific ravel cocerto. although after some consideration I decided that a cocerto might be to big a work to do realy well on and that somthing smaller might be apropriot. However I would very much like to compose for pino and some orchestral line up. Obivoulsy chamber music is where to go and I am thinking along the lines of a piano quartet/trio or somthing. I would like to have both strings and pino at least.
My problem now is my limeted knolege of repretoir so I'm asking the forum, what like lineup peices by Beethoven and Ravel miht I study.
Please help me on this becouse my time is limeted and I realy need to get started as soon as posible. Thanks everyone.
Shas

[JK]

Well you could do Ravels' string quartet and a late Beethoven. If you want piano then you could look at Ravels' trio and a Beethoven trio. Or if you want to go smaller you could look at Ravels' violin sonata and one of the Beethoven ones. As far as larger chamber works go I don't think Ravel wrote much more chamber music than this, most of his output is orchestral.

Another suggestion I might make is you could do Poulencs' sextet for piano and wind and Beethovens' quintet for piano and wind, although they don't have the same line up.

[shas]

No piano trio is good posibly even a bit biger. Just not as big as a full size syphony orchestra concerto. However what I realy need is recomendation as to specific peices. I can't find any ravel trios and I know Beethoven wrot some but i don't know which ones are good although I am trying to resurch.
Some opus numberswould be very helpful.
Thanks

[Hmoll]

Make sure your spell checker is in good nick.

Sorry...if you're thinking of Beethoven and Ravel, why not one of the Op1 trios compared/contrasted with the Ravel trio?

[shas]

Do you know for a fact that Ravel wrote any cos I can't seem to find any?
Also what do you meen by one of the op 1's (plural) shurly theres only one or do i not understand the catalouge system properly?
Can you recomend perticular peices? Any you have maby played and thaught a perticularely good?
thanks.

[Hmoll]

Do you know for a fact that Ravel wrote any cos I can't seem to find any?
Also what do you meen by one of the op 1's (plural) shurly theres only one or do i not understand the catalouge system properly?
Can you recomend perticular peices? Any you have maby played and thaught a perticularely good?
thanks.

Shas,

It's your project, so why don't you do some research.

Ravel wrote a piano trio in A minor.
Beethoven wrote lots of piano trios. There are three piano trios in Op.1. I suggested one of them because they are his earliest, and very classical in style.

[JK]

There is definately a piano trio by Ravel, it's quite often played. He only wrote one that's why we were refering to it as "the" Ravel trio. As for the op.1s, Beethoven published three piano trios under op.1. This is not uncommon with chamber works and sonatas, composers often publish a set of works under one opus number, some of his sonatas do the same. As for specific trios you could try op.1no.1, op.11 in Bflat (lovely piece), op.70no.2 or op.97. There are many others, but these are the ones that I really know.

[shas]

What so asking more knolegable people isn't resurch?
any thanks for the advice