Debussy Pedaling

[richterfan1]

Hi, i was wondering do i need to use pedal in this piece, replies would be helpful, thx 

https://www.musanim.com/pdf/debussyclairdelune.pdf

[lars_o]

It says "con sordina", which means "with mute" or "with damper" so I think that means don't depress the pedal as that would remove the dampers which would be written as "senza sordina". At least, that is the reason Andras Schiff used in one of his Beethoven lectures for using the pedal in the moonlight sonata, which says "senza sordini" (without dampers).

[birba]

This is a problem.  You would never be able to play a convincing clair de lune without pedal.  Ever.
Debussy never (or hardly ever) indicated pedaling.  A general rule would be to use the pedal when it's physically impossible to play the duration of the notes indicated.  For example, on the second page, the bass notes have to be held the entire duration of the measure, ergo, use the sustaining pedal.  You'll find an interesting article below on pedalling in Debussy.  It talks specifically about Clair de Lune.
As far as Beethoven goes, it's true that Senza sordine means WITH pedal and con sordine WITHOUT.  But to play the entire first movement of the Moonlight with the pedal down, as he indicates, is not practical on modern day instruments.

https://www.djupdal.org/karstein/debussy/method/m10.shtml

[richterfan1]

Yep. That measures cant be played without pedal, thx 4 replies,and for link